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erigert
erigert
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21:35 Mon 2 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
corsair was not active
he didn't play a single game all fixture despite logging in to look active
d_legend was subbed in on saturday after diamond was offline 13 days
I suggest you check the facts


u check the facts. the game diamond had vs nerdzz got played as alex lewis subbed in.
clifton188
clifton188
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21:37 Mon 2 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
corsair was logging in the hope to recieve a message from his opponent to no avail!
joeyy
joeyy
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21:40 Mon 2 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
well on thursday I gave w_hoolahan a list of players he could play and allowed them all to sub in and play....I did all I could
joeyy
joeyy
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21:40 Mon 2 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
I definitely didn't refuse to sub in and play when there was an opportunity to
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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22:12 Mon 2 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
As a player pirate perhaps wasn't as active as he could have been but lyle had only been on two hours in the fixture so i don't blame pirate for not checking as much. Their seems to be a pattern developing with lyle as much as i like him as hes fairly inactive each set which hopefully will be better soon.

Regards to adam and tinie, rolls are reversed but tinie was more active than lyle, i agree he should have made effort sooner though but hes been more active out of the two.

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As a runner point of view the extension was given in good faith, this has happened on Pool recently and it decided the tie, Up to you guys of course if you want to play or not but from a runner point of view i hope they are decided on the tables
erigert
erigert
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22:26 Mon 2 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
As a player pirate perhaps wasn't as active as he could have been but lyle had only been on two hours in the fixture so i don't blame pirate for not checking as much. Their seems to be a pattern developing with lyle as much as i like him as hes fairly inactive each set which hopefully will be better soon.

Regards to adam and tinie, rolls are reversed but tinie was more active than lyle, i agree he should have made effort sooner though but hes been more active out of the two.

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As a runner point of view the extension was given in good faith, this has happened on Pool recently and it decided the tie, Up to you guys of course if you want to play or not but from a runner point of view i hope they are decided on the tables

As a runner point of view u would want games to get completed during the two weeks, not after it. If not whats the point in having deadlines?
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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22:39 Mon 2 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
True but sometimes we use common sense, an extension has worked on pool recently and been effective. If you don't want the extension then don't play and it goes to defaults as before.

I came on and saw the extension posted so must be a reason why it was posted
erigert
erigert
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22:44 Mon 2 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
True but sometimes we use common sense, an extension has worked on pool recently and been effective. If you don't want the extension then don't play and it goes to defaults as before.

I came on and saw the extension posted so must be a reason why it was posted

The fact that there was an extension on pool too doesnt mean i agree with it
But even if we want to make an analogy, we cant. Both teams tried hard to get that last game played but failed due to players being on at different times. But here we have 3/5 games gone to default which certainly is non interest in trying to get games played.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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22:47 Mon 2 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
i agree, in most of those its one sided effort really but as before if you don't want extension then don't play, no one is forcing players to play
erigert
erigert
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23:03 Mon 2 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
i agree, in most of those its one sided effort really but as before if you don't want extension then don't play, no one is forcing players to play

We already said we dont want extension
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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23:04 Mon 2 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Ok its down to Seb if he wants to remove it, no harm if not though as you won't be playing anyway.

Default info by Tuesday night either way
d_legend
d_legend
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23:11 Mon 2 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
well at least im not sabotaging the league by making my own set of rules to suit my own agenda


Find me the rule that says that deadlines are extended incase games go to default

there isn't one, but there are many encouraging games to be played rather than going to default, which you chose to ignore.


HAHAHAHA slagging off folk for apparently making up their own rules, then making up your own rules yourself. that is embarrassing.
whocares8x8
whocares8x8
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00:10 Tue 3 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
We would only extend deadlines for cup games. This is because the defaults for those are usually extremely cumbersome, because every point matters.
But we'll do the defaults.
Also a reminder about defaults: messages and effort is the most important element.
captain's efforts are a plus and are considered, but nothing more. in the end, the players must make the effort.
adam_147
adam_147
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00:14 Tue 3 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
We would only extend deadlines for cup games. This is because the defaults for those are usually extremely cumbersome, because every point matters.
But we'll do the defaults.
Also a reminder about defaults: messages and effort is the most important element.
captain's efforts are a plus and are considered, but nothing more. in the end, the players must make the effort.

We want to play these games because at the end of the day every effort should be made to get as many games done on the table as possible and a cup match shouldn't be decided on defaults because one side refuses to play any games. I assume that NA refusing to play means they forfeit the tie?
legend_pot
legend_pot
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00:22 Tue 3 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Mixed Game

legend_pot 4 - 2 linfield1886

2 - 0 arcade (break of 75 for me)
1 - 1 regular
1 - 1 original

we was both pretty poor tbh, we can both definitely play better for sure as apart from the first frame and possibly the last the standard was fairly bad, arcade i needed one chance 1st frame with a 75, 2nd frame was scrappy i somehow nicked it, both frames of regular were scrappy we shared although second frame i had some good fortune to win it, original again scrappy affair i nicked 1st by one point then he took the 2nd, overall fair result had 3 all written all over it but nicked it somehow, i know hes a great player just a shame we were both not at the races ggs bud
whocares8x8
whocares8x8
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00:22 Tue 3 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
No. We dont force extensions on anyone. There were two weeks to complete the games and it looks like both teams screwed this up by leaving completely inactive players in the tie.
If people really wanted these games played, then tinie or tyler wouldve been subbed out ages ago.
Both teams have 5 active players that could've easily played these games. I dont see any excuse for either team really. A few people will at least get an entry on the defaulters list.
adam_147
adam_147
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00:28 Tue 3 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
No. We dont force extensions on anyone. There were two weeks to complete the games and it looks like both teams screwed this up by leaving completely inactive players in the tie.
If people really wanted these games played, then tinie or tyler wouldve been subbed out ages ago.
Both teams have 5 active players that could've easily played these games. I dont see any excuse for either team really. A few people will at least get an entry on the defaulters list.

Yes both teams are equally responsible for games not being played. One game was our fault (Tyler), one was their fault (tinie) and one was just the players didn't manage to meet each other. Surely the fact that we actually tried on deadline day to get the games played and were faced with a deliberate attempt to win on defaults must count for something? Last time I checked, refusing a sub against an active player wasn't allowed.
whocares8x8
whocares8x8
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00:35 Tue 3 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Im not sure why this should be discussed here. Isnt there a default panel?
erigert
erigert
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00:35 Tue 3 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
No. We dont force extensions on anyone. There were two weeks to complete the games and it looks like both teams screwed this up by leaving completely inactive players in the tie.
If people really wanted these games played, then tinie or tyler wouldve been subbed out ages ago.
Both teams have 5 active players that could've easily played these games. I dont see any excuse for either team really. A few people will at least get an entry on the defaulters list.

Yes both teams are equally responsible for games not being played. One game was our fault (Tyler), one was their fault (tinie) and one was just the players didn't manage to meet each other. Surely the fact that we actually tried on deadline day to get the games played and were faced with a deliberate attempt to win on defaults must count for something? Last time I checked, refusing a sub against an active player wasn't allowed.

How can it be only tinies fault when you on the other hand remembered u had a game to play only yesterday on the last two hours lol. Yes tinie was inactive, so were you.
adam_147
adam_147
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00:37 Tue 3 Mar 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Im not sure why this should be discussed here. Isnt there a default panel?

I think some things need to be shown in public. If it's now allowed to refuse subs against active players to try to win on defaults then it's only fair everyone should know. If it's still not allowed, then captains need to me made aware of this so that this never happens again. The nitty gritty of the scores and who should go on the defaulters list is for the default panel I agree, but this is a matter of exactly what the rules are. People need to know.
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