lol im looking forward too it, always good to go away to a newly promoted club

I was looking forward to the new season until I went down to villa park today to witness a mad ten minutes where we concede 3 goals which has really annoyed me.

I went to stoke few years back when we won like 5-2 there but still got relagated and i was about 12 or 13 at the time and because both teams went down stoke fans flipped and chassed us back to the moterway on bare foot. i was really scared because i was so young but thins year i am old enuff and its payback lol BRING ON STOKE!!

Edited at 01:10 Mon 18/08/08 (BST)

Liverpool are top of the table some good games today.

Liverpool 2-1 m'boro (last min goal)
Stoke 3-2 against villa (last min goal)
hull 1 - 1 blackburn (hull in 3rd place :o)

Also for ste Redditch 0-1 afc telford (now 2nd )

Wow, watched the liverpool game on fox sports and what a finish that was!! Great goal from CARRA!!! (No o.g!!) and even better from gerrard, last kick of the game 95th min, get in!!

Everton also winning with a patched up team so gotta give credit to them, never easy to beat newly promoted sides, even if they did it with the aid of long balls (so i'm told )

Woop... 0-0 and Bolton get a penalty with Newcastle playing terribly, Given saves it and suddenly Newcastle are attacking like mad! 1-0!

I'm sure I probably said this last season, but I'll say it again, Bolton are in my opinion, the dirtiest and most boring team in the league, 10 men behind the ball at all times, and as soon as the other team gets the ball, the main aim is to hack the other team down.

Nice to see everton win

come on stoke

Wooooo si ya won a game

Started of good for villa and stoke both playing competitive football then after a long hard time stoke finally got a pentlty (arnt to sure for the reason maybe a villa fan can clear it up for me) then it went 1-0 I thaught we might have a decent chance but when second half came and villa scored i was down becuase villa started play amazing football had a great run and the game suddenly was so fast it was mad but eventually got it to 2-1 then 2 minutes later they scored once again I was on edge lol then finally in last injury time last kick of ball finally got a goal I think we deserved it becuase some teams wrote us off thinking we would be easy and wouldnt even stand a chance ofter the 3-1 loss to bolton but we stuck in there

But got admit villa did push stoke to their limits today!

Stoke - Villa sounded a brilliant game!

made up Everton won, with a depleated squad
No pienaar,anichebe,hibbert,cahill and with players like arteta not at full fitness that was a vital win.

NOTTINGHAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Ill be on this thread next year talking about how guy moussi made steven gerrard look league 2 standard and how lewis mcgugan should be the next england captain

buzzing that stoke and hull have got their first wins already. Looks like nobody is gonna do a derby this year which makes their record breaking season last year all the sweeter.

Did you know its 341 days since derby county won a league game

It was a header and what a goal from fuller - wow. It was like Tuncay's bit of skill against us - but fuller scored

342 now actually

344 lol