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12:05 Wed 6 May 09 (BST) [Link]
English:
Steve Simonsen
Andy Griffin
Danny Higginbotham
Leon Cort
Liam Lawrence
Tom Soares
Richard Cresswell
Dave Kitson
Danny Pugh
Ryan Shawcross
James Beattie
Andrew Davies
Michael Tonge
Matthew Etherington
Andy Wilkinson
Carl Dickinson
Irish:
Glenn Whelan
Stephen Kelly
Rory Delap
Scotish:
Dominic Matteo
Nigerian:
Seyi Olofinjana
Jamaican:
Ricardo Fuller
Malian:
Mamady Sidibe
Senegalese:
Salif Diao
Amdy Faye
Abdoulaye Faye
Henri Camara
Danish:
Thomas Sorensen
French:
Ibrahima Sonko
If you look at 29 of stokes players who have being involved in the last couple of season there is only 9 different nationalities, we have the smallest in the premiership and as you can see if the FA ever make it so you need 10% of your team english we got alot more than average
I personally think all teams should be made to have this many english players, the reason our English football team was so good many many years ago is becuase we made them ourselfs we used them and made them to be great, instead of looking for fresh talent here teams like utd arsenal liverpool man city all go to other countries instead of looking on their door step which should not be allowed to happen constantly!
Edited at 17:07 Wed 6/05/09 (BST)
Steve Simonsen
Andy Griffin
Danny Higginbotham
Leon Cort
Liam Lawrence
Tom Soares
Richard Cresswell
Dave Kitson
Danny Pugh
Ryan Shawcross
James Beattie
Andrew Davies
Michael Tonge
Matthew Etherington
Andy Wilkinson
Carl Dickinson
Irish:
Glenn Whelan
Stephen Kelly
Rory Delap
Scotish:
Dominic Matteo
Nigerian:
Seyi Olofinjana
Jamaican:
Ricardo Fuller
Malian:
Mamady Sidibe
Senegalese:
Salif Diao
Amdy Faye
Abdoulaye Faye
Henri Camara
Danish:
Thomas Sorensen
French:
Ibrahima Sonko
If you look at 29 of stokes players who have being involved in the last couple of season there is only 9 different nationalities, we have the smallest in the premiership and as you can see if the FA ever make it so you need 10% of your team english we got alot more than average
I personally think all teams should be made to have this many english players, the reason our English football team was so good many many years ago is becuase we made them ourselfs we used them and made them to be great, instead of looking for fresh talent here teams like utd arsenal liverpool man city all go to other countries instead of looking on their door step which should not be allowed to happen constantly!
Edited at 17:07 Wed 6/05/09 (BST)
12:25 Wed 6 May 09 (BST) [Link]
Looking at our first team:
English:
Kevin Nolan
Joey Barton
Danny Guthrie
Michael Owen
Steve Harper
Ryan Taylor
Alan Smith
Nicky Butt
Shola Ameobi
Steven Taylor
Fraser Forster
Ben Tozer
Callum Morris
Andy Carroll
Mark Donninger
Ryan Donaldson
Jonny Godsmark
James Marwood
Darren Lough
Nile Ranger
Argentinian:
Fabricio Colocini
Jonas Gutierrez
Spanish:
Jose Enrique
Xisco
Brazilian:
Claudio Cacapa
Nigerian:
Oba Martins
Irish:
Damien Duff
French:
Seb Bassong
Wesley Ngo Baheng
Cameroon:
Geremi
Senegalese:
Habib Beye
Danish:
Peter Lovenkrands
Hungarian:
Tamas Kadar
Italian:
Fabio Zambalera
Dutch:
Frank Wiafe Danquah
Tim Krul
Swedish:
Ole Soderberg
Australian:
Mark Viduka
Congo:
Kazenga LuaLua
So we wouldn't be too badly off either, but I really should be revising instead of doing this!
English:
Kevin Nolan
Joey Barton
Danny Guthrie
Michael Owen
Steve Harper
Ryan Taylor
Alan Smith
Nicky Butt
Shola Ameobi
Steven Taylor
Fraser Forster
Ben Tozer
Callum Morris
Andy Carroll
Mark Donninger
Ryan Donaldson
Jonny Godsmark
James Marwood
Darren Lough
Nile Ranger
Argentinian:
Fabricio Colocini
Jonas Gutierrez
Spanish:
Jose Enrique
Xisco
Brazilian:
Claudio Cacapa
Nigerian:
Oba Martins
Irish:
Damien Duff
French:
Seb Bassong
Wesley Ngo Baheng
Cameroon:
Geremi
Senegalese:
Habib Beye
Danish:
Peter Lovenkrands
Hungarian:
Tamas Kadar
Italian:
Fabio Zambalera
Dutch:
Frank Wiafe Danquah
Tim Krul
Swedish:
Ole Soderberg
Australian:
Mark Viduka
Congo:
Kazenga LuaLua
So we wouldn't be too badly off either, but I really should be revising instead of doing this!
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06:17 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
English
Carlo Nash
Tony Hibbert
Phil Neville
Phil Jagielka
Jolean Lescott
Leighton Baines
James Vaughan
Leon Osman
Jack Rodwell
John Ruddy
Dan Gosling
Kieran Agard
John irving
John Paul Kissock
Jose Baxter
Nigerian
Ayebeni Yakubu
Victor Anichebe
Joseph Yobo
Dutch
Andy Van De Meyde
Ecuadorian
Segundo Castillo
French
Louis Saha
Spanish
Mikel Arteta
Brazilian
Jo (on loan)
Danish
Lars Jacobson
Australian
Tim Cahill
Portueguese
Nuno Valente
South African
Steven Pienaaar
American
Tim Howard
Belgian
Marouane Fellaini
Irish
James Wallace
Seamus Coleman
OHH EVERTON WE LOVE YOUUU
Carlo Nash
Tony Hibbert
Phil Neville
Phil Jagielka
Jolean Lescott
Leighton Baines
James Vaughan
Leon Osman
Jack Rodwell
John Ruddy
Dan Gosling
Kieran Agard
John irving
John Paul Kissock
Jose Baxter
Nigerian
Ayebeni Yakubu
Victor Anichebe
Joseph Yobo
Dutch
Andy Van De Meyde
Ecuadorian
Segundo Castillo
French
Louis Saha
Spanish
Mikel Arteta
Brazilian
Jo (on loan)
Danish
Lars Jacobson
Australian
Tim Cahill
Portueguese
Nuno Valente
South African
Steven Pienaaar
American
Tim Howard
Belgian
Marouane Fellaini
Irish
James Wallace
Seamus Coleman
OHH EVERTON WE LOVE YOUUU
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09:56 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
English
Steven Gerrard (c)
Jamie Carragher (vc)
Jay Spearing
Stephen Darby (RC)
Steve Irwin
Nathan Eccleston
David Martin
Jermaine Pennant
Martin Kelly
Craig Lindfield
Paul Anderson
Adam Hammill
Robbie Threlfall
Spanish
Fernando Torres
Albert Riera
Xabi Alonso
Álvaro Arbeloa
Pepe Reina
Miki Roque
Brazillian
Diego Cavalieri
Lucas
Fábio Aurélio
Dutch
Dirk Kuyt
Ryan Babel
Argentinian
Javier Mascherano
Emiliano Insúa
Sebastián Leto
Finnish
Sami Hyypia
Italian
Andrea Dossena
Danish
Dan Agger
Martin Hansen
Isreali
Yossi Benayoun
Swiss
Philipp Degen
French
David N'Gog
Damien Plessis
Charles Itandje
Slovakian
Martin Škrtel
Hungarian
Krisztián Németh
Péter Gulácsi
Bulgarian
Nikolay Mihaylov
Moroccan
Nabil El Zhar
Ukrainian
Andriy Voronin
On your point at the bottom of your post though Si, I think that is a pure Myth. Other than in 1966, England have never won anything (and that was in England!) We regulalrly never qualified for tournaments, and teams like Scotland did.
The Influx of foreign footballers to the prem appears to have strengthened the English national team, it has increased competition for places at clubs (as Wenger says - if players are good enough they will be picked - nationality is not a factor). What i will say is foreign players are cheape
Steven Gerrard (c)
Jamie Carragher (vc)
Jay Spearing
Stephen Darby (RC)
Steve Irwin
Nathan Eccleston
David Martin
Jermaine Pennant
Martin Kelly
Craig Lindfield
Paul Anderson
Adam Hammill
Robbie Threlfall
Spanish
Fernando Torres
Albert Riera
Xabi Alonso
Álvaro Arbeloa
Pepe Reina
Miki Roque
Brazillian
Diego Cavalieri
Lucas
Fábio Aurélio
Dutch
Dirk Kuyt
Ryan Babel
Argentinian
Javier Mascherano
Emiliano Insúa
Sebastián Leto
Finnish
Sami Hyypia
Italian
Andrea Dossena
Danish
Dan Agger
Martin Hansen
Isreali
Yossi Benayoun
Swiss
Philipp Degen
French
David N'Gog
Damien Plessis
Charles Itandje
Slovakian
Martin Škrtel
Hungarian
Krisztián Németh
Péter Gulácsi
Bulgarian
Nikolay Mihaylov
Moroccan
Nabil El Zhar
Ukrainian
Andriy Voronin
On your point at the bottom of your post though Si, I think that is a pure Myth. Other than in 1966, England have never won anything (and that was in England!) We regulalrly never qualified for tournaments, and teams like Scotland did.
The Influx of foreign footballers to the prem appears to have strengthened the English national team, it has increased competition for places at clubs (as Wenger says - if players are good enough they will be picked - nationality is not a factor). What i will say is foreign players are cheape
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... are cheaper than English players in the transfer market, this is what the problem is.
For example, Liverpool bought Sami Hyypia for 2.5 million. We have had 10 years of quality service out of him. Who could we have bought who is English at that price who could give us such service for such a long time. Answer - Nobody.
English players are very over valued. I can't think of one English player in recent times (other than Kevin Davies at Bolton) who has turned out to be a bargain. There is certainly not enough instances.
At the end of the day the cream will always rise to the top.
Look at our English players, we have bought very few. The ones that have done well have been brought through the academy.
For example, Liverpool bought Sami Hyypia for 2.5 million. We have had 10 years of quality service out of him. Who could we have bought who is English at that price who could give us such service for such a long time. Answer - Nobody.
English players are very over valued. I can't think of one English player in recent times (other than Kevin Davies at Bolton) who has turned out to be a bargain. There is certainly not enough instances.
At the end of the day the cream will always rise to the top.
Look at our English players, we have bought very few. The ones that have done well have been brought through the academy.
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