Here's a very clever suggestion, I think. Have it so that a player can claim the win when only the black is left and his/her lead is 8 points more. Should be fairly easy to implement, considering that it's possible (as we know) to concede a game if p2 - p1 > 8*r + 27, where p1 is the player whose turn it is, p2 is his/her opponent, and r is the number of reds (i.e. when a player needs snookers).

Your opinions, folks?

Edited at 22:01 Thu 8/02/07 (GMT)

yep i mean its about 10000/1 ur gonna win from black ball when ur 8+ behind unless the winning person does a random shot or lags. good idea

sounds good...see what nick thinks

In a real game the game is over when that situation occurs.

Wrong.

In the real game the player in the lead can "call the game", as he can at any point when his opponent needs snookers.

This has been asked for very often, so i'm sure something will come soon.

absurd boy , how can a player call the game at any point when his opponent needs snookers.
If the opponent needs snookers on the black ball its GAME OVER !

Hate to say it man, but you're wrong.... aaaa!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snooker#The_end_of_a_frame

LOL its not a rule!

Its how the game is played in real life, when someone in the lead calls game, if the opponent agrees and conceeds, the game is over.

This has been suggested many times on these esteemed forums.

(BTW - wikipedia isn't exactly a good link to use in an argument! )

Hmmmm, no.... Nonetheless, rule or no rule, people have been eliminated from tournaments cos of opponents not conceding when there's only the black left. Would make complete sense to me.

Update: the last time I read the official rules, I was shocked to find no reference to the 8-point rule. What I did see though was that when only the black remains and there is a foul, the player who is in the lead wins. Meaning that, in the real world, if you're 8 points up and potted the white when trying to pot the black, you still win as, although your opponent is only 1 point away, the frame is over.

Does that rule (game over after foul on black) exist on FS? If so then all we need to do (for now) is pot the white if an opponent is obstinate.

In the latest chapter in the story, there were not one but two double DQs due to time-outs. Dunno about one of those games (whether ornot it was just a regular case of two players who hadn't the skills to finish up or whether it was malice on one player's part), but the score in the other one was 61-32 with only the black left. The player on 32 said they didn't know how to concede. (!) Now, does anyone believe that the player on 62 should have been eliminated?

And PS: just got knocked out of the 8:00 tourney by a player who didn't concede when 9 points behind and waited till I exasperatedly putted the white in an attempt to fluke the yellow cos time was running out.

SO... I'm not coming back here to play till this gets sorted out. It's a pity cos I enjoy playing snooker here, but it's pretty pointless when you ave to worry about how your opponent is gonna do it to you up the you-know-what and there's nothing you can do about it. I'll still visit the site to see what progress is being made, but I ain't playing.

oooo an ultimatum

Seriously though, I can't keep going of tournaments just because someone refuses to do the right thing and give up when the time is nearly up and they have no realistic chance of winning. Sorry

I'm sure this will be looked into when Nick has a chance.

It makes perfect sense for the person in the lead to go through when the time limit expires.

This is the only problem though :



If this suggestion were in place, you would never expect someone only 9 points behind when on the yellow to conceede.

However, could you honestly say you wouldn't take your time and stall to protect your lead?

I propose that the last 2 minutes of tourney games the timer is reduced to 10 seconds per shot, to eliminate stalling.

no i dont like that idea much spinner! just the player with the most points at the end of the game wins i reckon... also how long can a game last with just the black left?? especially if you are 8 points ahead or more.

Don't be so arrogant. as it happens you are the one that's wrong spinner. The game IS over. GO have a look at a rules poster if you doubt it.

I think rather than a button, the game should just end after the winner misses the black for the first time.

I've found international rules online which state that so yes, i'm happy to admit i'm wrong.

Sure aint on our club rules poster - its me that prints them!



I also realise i was completely wrong to suggest the "person in the lead wins" idea, it is, frankly, stupid.

Ah, a call game button, yes please, would stop people just battering the colours about and wasting our precious gaming time!

Careful Mcq! I already suggested that and got a mouthful!