Ok then, so beating Hull fc the last time we played them at the Kc 6-42 doesn't count for anything. How am i one dimensional? Of course it's plain to see St Helens are better than Warrington, just look at the past results between the two. But, how can you say Hull fc are better than us when last year there was four games between the two and each team won 2 games each. In none of my posts have i said we are better than hull fc and vice versa. Do the maths mate.

Ok, you beat wigan twice last year was it? But came below them, that makes you better than Wigan but look at the league table, you came below them.

It's about head to head games on how you judge a team mate. all im saying.

lol no its not, you can have the wood over certain teams, the best teams are the best over a season, sainsts were the best team last year, but ultimately lost in the final.

So your telling me if salford would have beaten warrington 3 times out of 4 last year there better than us?

Worry about your own team... cos you were not so long ago, just 1 of the widneses of this world, lumbering in the national leagues, reminiscing about the team you once were and no longer are.

I couldnt of put that better myself Mike, Seriously though Ste you are one dimensional, Plus head to head result's mean nothing, Ok you beat us 42-6 but were did that get you in the league?, Atleast we managed to finish higher tha you.. By a fair bit aswell as you was fighting to stay up, And now you think that your going to be challenging Saints?, Just because they have 2 key players out thr will still outclass you, Saints are the best team in the league IMO closely followed by leeds and losing to them isnt anything to be ashamed of (and im not saying you said that im just saying) you could of beat Hull FC all four times you played us last seaon but it wouldnt of got you anywhere, Just a typical KR fan, Slag other teams of but never state their own faults Like you have had many disappointing games but you never jump on the thread to say.

Personally i think that KR will struggle again this year, They will do ok but finish in the bottom half of the table possibly a bit higher.

Edited at 20:35 Sat 9/02/08 (GMT)

if you added up all the worries of warrington and hull fc, they'd be less than the worris the KR lot have..

Anyways great game today, great comeback by catalan, cas look like they will struggle in the league this year and will be thankful of the franchise system!

Edited at 21:30 Sat 9/02/08 (GMT)

leeds rhinos will win

ahh ok - no need for this thread anymore then

capped

lmao Mike!, Seriously though i think Saints will win it, Catalans, For some reason i like them (not support) it's good to watch any rugby league match, Except KR lol unless there playing FC Saints Leeds or Catalans.

1. St helens
2. Leeds
3. Hull FC
4. Warrington
5. Huddersfield
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12. Hull Kr

Edited at 23:55 Sat 9/02/08 (GMT)

Pfft wire for 4th!!

I think my team just answered all your rubbish saying we will struggle.

Hull Kingston Rovers 24 - 22 St Helens.

I'll take heed on your advice and worry about my own team. I'm actually not as surprised for the win as I thought i would be, and we didn't just challenge em did we R_R. 22-6 up at one bit but Saints as they do, and credit to them came roaring back. But Jake Webster slotted home a penalty, incidently Saints missed a penalty themselves and got a try disallowed rightly at the death. Credit where credits due i think for us! We are serious top six contenders and why not top 3?

Yup well played to you, all i seen was the score line so can't go into details of how bad sainnts were or if KR were just on top form (or maybe both) and its always nice to see saints get beat .

As or top 6 spot... i doubt it... but we shall see!!

Also of note wakey stunned the bulls 26-24, Leeds cruised to go top, and the wire are 3rd

1 leeds
2 st helens
3 bradford
4 warrinton
5 hull fc
6 catalans
7 hudderfield
8 wakefield
9 hull kr
10 wigan
11 harlquins
12 caselford

yeah wigan 10th!! swap wian for catalan and you wont be far wrong, anyway big game tomorow, Wire V saints.. im hoping for a win TBH, 22-12 to the wire

hmm.. Will be a good game but i can see saints edging it 24-20 saints

close.... Kevin Penny single handedly lost us that game with his jubinile defending

woooooo the wire hold off a fightback from KR with the help of the brilliant monaghan to win 29-28 awa from home, looking forward to boots n all to see that .

Also on another note Cas got cained by Huddersfield with i think 14 tries scored against them with 12 of the huddersfield team scoring, Cas shouldnt get a license to stay in super league they will be bottom every year, bring up widnes, i used to love derby day

No it was 12 tries and 10 different players scoring. And it was 64-12 the final score.

ahhh 12 is that it?

The Giants opened their Super League account in fine style with a 64-12 win over the depleted Tigers at the Galpharm Stadium.

Also. That was a good win for Warrington beating Hull KR, It was a good comeback from KR but was unfortunate not to win, It wa a good weekend all round for rugby i think with Hull FC winning 24-22 against Wigan.

I think that now we have a win under our belt we will start to play better rugby amd hopefully win more games!!.

Leeds Rhinos the only team to win every match and Castleford the only team to lose every match.

Anyway, the mighty Rhinos coming up against Melbourne on friday.

I predict a 34-18 win for the Rhinos.

Melbourne Storm will win i think, It will be a very good match, And a close one aswell

Melbourne Storm 36-30 Leeds Rhinos

Edited at 20:59 Mon 25/02/08 (GMT)