If you score your highest break practising it should count.Its not as if you can cheat.
Also,if you wish to remove yourself as a newbie early you should be able to.
and something should be done to combat the miss rule,i know it would be hard to enforce,
but maybe 3 misses and you lose the frame.

What do you mean, 3 random shots and you lose, because if you missed 3 times it would be harsh too say you lose

you can put the balls over the pockets and set your self up if practice brakes where counted then nearly every one on the game will have a 107

Removing yourself as a newbie is a lame idea also... Just defeats the point of being one.

Waste of a thread in my opinion..

disagree with everything you have said there apart from the 3 misses..it should be slighty different to what you are describing it is..the rule in real life does exist with the 3 misses rule, but only if you can hit the object ball full-on..if that rule was going to be put in, it would be best to have it that way

Completely agree. Also the practice breaks counting is a poor idea too, although I don't quite agree that everyone one have 107 cos it is still pretty hard to get, even on the practice table.

in regards to lucifer1 about combatting the miss rule.

the rule: '3 misses and you concede/lose the frame' only works when the opponent trying to hit the ball can see the ball.if the oponent cannot see the ball directly then they can have as many attempts as they want to try and hit it. but i do agree there should be some kind of miss rule implemented.

It may seem sad and that it might take a while, but it is possible to set up the balls so you have a good chance of a high break.



Like has been said, this completely defies the point of being a newbie, the newbie status is to let other users know that you are new to the game and gives you time to get to your 'Proper' ranking without players losing 5 points against a 700 that is actually the quality of a 900.



I can see where you're coming from on this one, similar to 9 Ball on Pool? But also, like has been said, it only applies when the player can see the ball, and I don't know if that could be done on here..

i say these idea arent the best and are best kept as 'ideas'

the 3 miss rule should also never come into being implimented!

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I dont think you people understand my point,
if your snookered and you deliberatly miss to leave it safe which happens every game there is no penalty bar the 4 points.
In effect this is cheating and is a glitch in the game.There is no argument on this for anyone who understands the etiqutte of the game,
And as i said about newbies,
give the player CHOICE to remove himself as a newbie therefore forfitting the points advantage.
It would mean people wouldnt refuse to play you as much.
And lets be honest the game is not rocket science it lasts way way too long.
I take your points on the breaks but you'd want to be pretty sad to set the balls up over the pockets.

now understand ur 1st point but ure 2nd is still way off the mark as this would encourage even more reset players. Also if your a newbie you have certain hings unavailable to you such as posting. So i now agree with the 1st but not the 2nd!

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The thing with the Newbie status though, it isn't as much for you, it's for other users. When a Newbie plays a non-newbie the non-newbie will lose/gain less points than they would if they played against another non-newbie.

The newbie status is there so that it gives time (100 games) for the Newbie to get to their 'True Ranking'. So say a newbie (ranked 700, but quality of a 900) played against an 800, if the 800 loses as the newbie is better, they may only lose 3 or 4 points.

Whereas if those same players played except the newbie didn't have the newbie status, the 800 might lose 15 points for losing to a 700 ranking that is the quality of a 900, which would be unfair on the 800...


Understand?

your first idea ( 3 foul's and you concede the frame ), i dis-agree, if they tap the white safe, and commit's a foul then you just make your opponent take the shot again, simple, your opponent want's to make a foul by purpose, let him/her, if they commit a foul, you ave the upper hand anyway, your opponent has either left you snookered, or has left you a possible pot on, if you are snookered, make your opponent play again, if you have a possible pot, you take the shot.

i think that having the choice of removing your newbie status shouldn't even be allowed to be a contender for the next upgrades, say i reset and was a player with rank of 970+ then reset remove my newbie status, and then just basically rob point's of the other players, which is basically what you'd be doing, so a definate no, sorry... but i carn't see anyone wanting this!.

to be able to have your practise break count as a normal break?, i like the idea personally, but it just couldn't be implemented for simple reason, people would spread the red's nicelyy so there chances of a high break is very high!, you may think, well why would they do that?, it's just sad, a matter of fact, your right.. it IS sad, but there are people who would do this so they get endless amount's of centuries, it just couldn't... and wouldn't work!...

i garee with the deliberate fouling being stopped simply by having the option t replace the balls!

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toon your reply is very naive and frankly still missing the main point,
CHOICE
what about re-entered players with new names,
banned users perhaps,
this point isint a big deal anyway,
but the obvious one is the glitch,
ronnie do you play the real game?
if a player deliberatly fouls,he wont be STUPID enough to snooker you or leave a pot on.
Its a flaw plain and simple.

Edited at 12:50 Wed 1/08/07 (BST)

How is it naive? I was simply explaining to you why the newbie status is in place and why you shouldn't be able to get rid of it before 100 games. Re-Entered players should definately have no choice as they are more likely to be good, and if someone joined, taking away their newbie status straight away, they may be a 675 with the quality of a 900, taking off 20 points from 850s (e.g.) every time they play.

Therefore, should a player have the choice of no longer being a newbie without playing the set amount of games, and choses to do so, higher ranked players may well be losing a high amount of points because a user has had the choice of taking away the newbie status and therefore the point change reduction.

i agree with tom here 10000000% lol

naive

Explain why then...I've said what I think then given a reason and explained it, yet you just call me 'naive' without backing it up...