Right, i don't know if anybody else has had this problem, but it takes my MSN about 20 minutes to sign me in. However, I get messages coming up saying "unable to start conversation with..."

This is because i appear to be logged in to my friends on msn, as they are trying to message me, thinking that i am signed in, when really I am still signing in.

I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling but it hasn't worked.

any thoughts on what, why and how to stop this from happening?


Hope i have explained the problem clearly enough....

very clearly indeed mike but i cannot help u one bit mate

Hi Mike,


What version of MSN do you have?
Have you tried the online web messenger?

Do you sign in as Appear Offline or one of the online settings? I find that signing in with one of the online settings makes it load slower, as MSN is trying to load everything properly and let people talk at the same time.

Signing in as Appear Offline means it can easily load all that quicker, letting you talk to people afterwards.

Also, if you have a torrent running, UTorrent or limewire for example, this will slow MSN down, sometimes not allowing you to sign in at all.

Edited at 15:10 Thu 19/06/08 (BST)

I went on a mass download mission yesterday, could this have anything to do with it?

Yeah thats probably it. Close any windows you have open, and make sure none of your torrents are still open on the toolbar. Then try and sign into MSN. I think it should work then.

I'd first suggest a firewall issue, but I suppose you'd surely know it if you changed/installed anything related to a firewall.

rule #1 about me, never assume anything , especially with computers...

get a new computer

stop complaining lol

Hello........earth calling Mike

Lol shurup chris...

I downloaded an older version but it hasn't worked, not sure what versions they are.

And i tried that web messenger but don't really understand it