when playing a game and you get snookered whilst on a colour ball you should have to nominate a colour instead of hitting and hoping to hit any colour

views and opinions?

I like it, but wouldn't like to see it. The choice should be open to the player whether they want to hit and hope, or whether they want to nominate.

I would like to see it very much. However, as far as I know (the question having been discussed many times already) the main problem is that the game should then calculate whether you're snookered, which is not trivial to implement.

Would like to see it (even though hit 'n' hope is how I get out of most snookers). Although, it has been mentioned before and it was pointed out that it causes problems because of the shot clock - especially in 10s games such as speed tourneys. Also, it is not that much different from when you aim for a fine cut on a colour, miss, and hit another colour (even potting it!). In a real match the referee would ask you to nominate if there was any doubt as to which colour you are aiming for so probablly falls in to that class of real life rules that can not be implemented either because of difficulty to implement or requires an independant subjective decision.

ok fair do's i understand that it would be hard to introduce - just an idea

I would like to see this introduced and maybe the best way to do it is to introduce the rule that you have to nominate on every colour shot meaning the system won't need to recognise a snooker.

Yes it will cause problems in 10 sec games but then its like anything else - we'll get used to it and it affects everyone in the same way.

Edited at 22:44 Thu 28/08/08 (BST)

I don't think that having to nominate every color ball is a good idea. It would ruin the game speed, fluentness and intuitiveness... and these are among the main reasons of the game's popularity!

That said, I would personally enjoy it... but I know by experience that I'm not representative of what the average user wants.

Personally, i see its as... its called funkysnooker not realisticsnooker

It wouldn't be too tricky to detect whether snookered, so it could be added only when you don't see a full ball. However as mentioned above there would still be a chance you hit another colour in that circumstance.

I wouldn't personally really want to have to nominate a colour every single go but I guess if it's 1 click of a mouse button (directly on the ball on the table) to nominate before shooting it would be acceptable?

(I do have this listed as something to add at the moment)

Edited at 15:09 Fri 29/08/08 (BST)

I think it would be a great addition and i like the idea of nominating a colour everytime, would be happy to see it added to the site

I would think this would introduce another level of complexity for new users.
Perhaps if the game was able to detect if you are snookered and then force a nomination only if you are snookered?

Edited at 15:29 Fri 29/08/08 (BST)

Actually, if it's implemented as Nick said, by clicking directly on the ball on the table, it's really not a big deal to select that ball on every shot:
- if you're not snookered, you already place your cursor next to the target ball, so it's a minimal loss to click on it before hitting;
- if you're snookered, it can be a bit more disturbing, as you usually place your pointer far from the target ball... but that's exactly the case where it's so important to nominate it!

Also note that if the game behave differently, depending on the fact you're snookered or not, the player would know directly whether (s)he's snookered. This would change the gameplay a bit, as in some cases it's a matter of skill to "see" if you're snookered or not. Because of that, and of what I said above, it would probably be better to add nomination for every shot, and not only when you're snookered.

Very good points Martin.

I've never been in favour of nominating on the existing games due to the impact it has on gameplay on the other sites i've seen using it.

The biggest attraction of the funkygames for me by far is the ease, and just as importantly, smoothness of play.

I feel nominating every time would be resticting the flow of the game for everyone, for the benefit of a few people in a few circumstances.

I understand what you are saying about restricting the flow of games etc. but as blutch and nick said if its just a case of clicking the ball you want to nominate it wouldnt really be slowing the flow of the game down as you need to hover over the ball with the aim anyway so it would just be the same but with an added click.

But then why should you have to click it?

A possible solution to please everyone would be to have the ability to click a ball to nominate if you want to, otherwise the game assumes the closest ball to the cursor at the time of the shot is the nominated ball.

That would avoid any alteration to existing gameplay and offer the chance to nominate in the very rare occasions the object ball isn't obvious.

agreed there i don't think it should be added to every shot

Personally i think it would be great to have to nominate every time your on a colour.
It is standard practice in real life, and yeah its funkysnooker but it retains the majority of snooker rules already.

As for not being easy for newbies to navigate how about for your first 20 games or so it comes up with a little box with all the colours in that clearly states nominate by clicking the colour ball you are targeting. Newbies would then learn it quick. Maybe even an option to turn it off before the end of the spell for fake newbies!

Spot on there.

Since my first post is getting quoted a bit, i thought i'd highlight this as i feel its a decent compromise that won't alter gameplay for anyone unless the need to nominate arises :



Edited at 19:28 Fri 29/08/08 (BST)