we're 2nd ste, not top anymore

Getting it on the next page just to provoke Ste to moan at me

Can you blame us for playing for set pieces when we haven't got a single striker on the pitch?!!! We're divers??? Mascherano's dives made me sick! Then he waves his hand for a yellow card! Hate him for life now!

You didn't win that game because of Everton's brilliant defending and of course a bit of luck! Mike you're worst than my mates, you're so biased! We stopped you with half a team!

I'm not biassed at all. Masch dove a few times, twice i reckon - well went down easily - there was at least some contact. gerrard has been knows to do it as well.

You didn't have half a team, James Vaughn? Luis Saha? they make the bench. Arteta, Yakubu and Fellaini are regulars granted.

Every team has injuries, I don't feel for you We've just got our team back, and Agger is still out, our strength in depth is just superior to yours. No discussion.

Ahh wellll... Everyone knows these three games are just the build up for the real derby of the Premier League season... As on 1st February Newcastle meet Sunderland.

Okay so maybe I built that up a bit much, and no it wont get its own thread either, partially because Lyle and myself are the only people stupid enough to keep reminding people who we support so it would just be a two way thread just about

I actually am not looking forward to the derby, and that shows how little confidence I have in Newcastle at the moment

Pfft kindergaten derby maybe

To be honest, I now know why ste raves on about Jagielka.

I've always liked you mike ^

Hes playing well.

But still unproven in my eyes.

Cost of the Sunday teams

Reina £6m (ish)
Arbeloa £3m (ish)
Carragher £0
Skrtel £6.5m (ish)
Dossena £7m (ish)
Babel £11.5m (ish)
Mascherano £18.6m (ish)
Alonso £10.5m (ish)
Gerrard £0
Kuyt £10m (ish)
Torres £20-25m (ish)

Total = £93-98m (ish)

Howard £3m (ish)
Hibbert £0
Jagielka £4m
Lescott £5m (ish)
Baines £5m (ish)
Pienaar £2m
Neville £3.5m (ish)
Castillo loan
Osman £0
Anichebe £0
Cahill £1.5m (ish)

Total = £24m


COYB!!!

Yup.

But the difference in class shows over the period of a season, a decade, a lifetime, not over 3 games

Then the 70 million pound seems money well spent


Edit: Shankly made a team for about 200k and made us the most succesful team in the world, in todays money that doesn't come up to 24mill

Haha, was just a bit of fun on my part! I could go on forever about the current financial climate in football!

Also, looking at the team, there is probably only dosseina and Babbel who we probably wouldn't sell at a profit, rumour is Juve want Kuyt for £30M

I think we should gift wrap him

Here is what i think we could get for the lot - realistically

Reina £6m (ish) sell for 15million
Arbeloa £3m (ish) sell for 5 million
Carragher £0 sell for 8 million (but he is priceless)
Skrtel £6.5m (ish) sell for 8 million
Dossena £7m (ish) sell for 6 million
Babel £11.5m (ish) sell for 11 million
Mascherano £18.6m (ish) sell for 20 million
Alonso £10.5m (ish) sell for 14 million
Gerrard £0 sell for 30 million (again priceless)
Kuyt £10m (ish) wuldn't give you half of that, but Juve could offer around 30 million
Torres £20-25m (ish) sell for 60 million - easy.

So now Rafa looks to have bought well.

cost 93-98 million
sale price 219 million

profit = £126 million




Evertons team:

Howard £3m (ish) sell for 4.5 million
Hibbert £0 half sell for half a million
Jagielka £4m sell for 12 million
Lescott £5m (ish) sell for 10 million
Baines £5m (ish) break even
Pienaar £2m sell for 3.5 million
Neville £3.5m (ish) 1 million
Castillo loan - cant sell.
Osman £0 sell for 2.5 million
Anichebe £0 sell for 1.5 million
Cahill £1.5m (ish) sell for 10 million.

Cost £24M

sale price £45.5M

profit £21.5M

Rafa dominates moyes and spends has nothing to do with it the profits do

Edited at 00:16 Tue 27/01/09 (GMT)

No point in arguing with a biased kopite!!

Biassed!!

I've put carra, gerrard and torres low, they would be sold for more than that.

Am just right, the stats don't lie.

And neither do the trophy cabinets and the premier league table.

You say am biassed, but never say why.

Edited at 00:20 Tue 27/01/09 (GMT)

Now now mike keep the banter to a certain level!

Mike's Evertons team:

Howard £3m (ish) sell for 4.5 million
Hibbert £0 half sell for half a million
Jagielka £4m sell for 12 million
Lescott £5m (ish) sell for 10 million
Baines £5m (ish) break even
Pienaar £2m sell for 3.5 million
Neville £3.5m (ish) 1 million
Castillo loan - cant sell.
Osman £0 sell for 2.5 million
Anichebe £0 sell for 1.5 million
Cahill £1.5m (ish) sell for 10 million.


Ste's Evertons team:

Howard £3m (ish) sell for 5.5 million
Hibbert £0 sell for 2 million
Jagielka £4m sell for 18 million
Lescott £5m (ish) sell for 10 million
Baines £5m (ish) 8 million
Pienaar £2m sell for 3.5 million
Neville £3.5m (ish) 1 million
Castillo loan - cant sell.
Osman £0 sell for 2.5 million
Anichebe £0 sell for 1.5 million
Cahill £1.5m (ish) sell for 10 million.

Jeez mike you got that almost spot on.

Mike's Liverpool

Reina £6m (ish) sell for 15million
Arbeloa £3m (ish) sell for 5 million
Carragher £0 sell for 8 million (but he is priceless)
Skrtel £6.5m (ish) sell for 8 million
Dossena £7m (ish) sell for 6 million
Babel £11.5m (ish) sell for 11 million
Mascherano £18.6m (ish) sell for 20 million
Alonso £10.5m (ish) sell for 14 million
Gerrard £0 sell for 30 million (again priceless)
Kuyt £10m (ish) wuldn't give you half of that, but Juve could offer around 30 million
Torres £20-25m (ish) sell for 60 million - easy.

Ste's Liverpool

Reina £6m (ish) sell for 15million
Arbeloa £3m (ish) sell for 3.5 million
Carragher £0 sell for 8 million
Skrtel £6.5m (ish) sell for 9 million
Dossena £7m (ish) sell for 5 million
Babel £11.5m (ish) sell for 8 million
Mascherano £18.6m (ish) sell for 18 million
Alonso £10.5m (ish) sell for 14 million
Gerrard £0 sell for 25 million
Kuyt £10m (ish) sell for 6 million
Torres £20-25m (ish) sell for 40 million

Liverpool have had a bid off city for torres which was in the region of 60 million, juve will offer at least 20 mill for Kuyt cos they want a repacement for Nedved. Gerrard is worth more than 25 mill. he is the best midfielder in the prem after all.

On a lighter note, Moyesy reckons Piennar should have got a pen, as he had his ankles clipped.

Lmao.

Rafa reckons that he has never put 10 en behind the ball since he was in charge of non-leaguers



But yeah torres at 40 mill and hibbert at 2 mill, your having a bubble.

Anyways, even on your biassed team, we still are making more money. But it is a pointless debate, Rafa is going to be better than Moyes, Rafa has won 2 titles a uefa cup and a champions league, Moysey laa is yet to win anything.


Edited at 00:55 Tue 27/01/09 (GMT)

The papers say City put a bid of 60 million but that was never confirmed by skysports!

So if you're running with the ball and someone clips you're ankle and prevents you from attacking goal that isn't a foul?

No one will ever pay over 10 million pounds for kuyt ever again!

Yeah maybe 30 million is about right for Gerrard, i was thinking because of his age (28) teams wouldn't be prepared to pay that, but on second thought they would jump at it

And you're wrong it was Valencia he last put 10 players behind the ball.