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20:22 Wed 22 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
There should be a part on your profile which states how many unbeaten you are in a row,
this should also save your highest run ever made
this should also save your highest run ever made
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20:22 Wed 22 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
just for fun, plus it wud be good to quickly judge your opponent
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01:22 Thu 23 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
Been mentioned before and it got quite good feedback. I like this idea a lot and i would like to see my unbeaten run. Thumbs up for this
02:27 Thu 23 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
Alternatively, you can look in the "Events" tab in the player's profile .... I don't see why another entry on the profile is required.
03:26 Thu 23 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
The events tab only shows ranked games.
Also, when the winning streak exceeds 10-15 games, and the player plays several game types, therefore mixing the game results, it becomes hard to count by yourself.
I think that's a good idea. Usually I love the new profile statistics ideas.
I had even already reported a similar idea in the past, which I think is even better.
http://www.funkysnooker.com/viewTopic.do?topicid=3451
Edited at 08:31 Thu 23/04/09 (BST)
baff said:
Alternatively, you can look in the "Events" tab in the player's profile .... I don't see why another entry on the profile is required.
The events tab only shows ranked games.
Also, when the winning streak exceeds 10-15 games, and the player plays several game types, therefore mixing the game results, it becomes hard to count by yourself.
I think that's a good idea. Usually I love the new profile statistics ideas.
I had even already reported a similar idea in the past, which I think is even better.
http://www.funkysnooker.com/viewTopic.do?topicid=3451
Edited at 08:31 Thu 23/04/09 (BST)
05:24 Thu 23 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
What about killer? If people win 10 10 man killer games theres 90 odd streak already
07:36 Thu 23 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
Why would that be odd? If someone really wins 10 10 man killer games in a row, then (s)he really has beaten 90 opponents in a row.
For killer there would indeed probably be higher streaks than for other game types, but it's still a valuable piece of information in itself.
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What about killer? If people win 10 10 man killer games theres 90 odd streak already
Why would that be odd? If someone really wins 10 10 man killer games in a row, then (s)he really has beaten 90 opponents in a row.
For killer there would indeed probably be higher streaks than for other game types, but it's still a valuable piece of information in itself.
08:43 Thu 23 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
I like the idea. I especially like blutch's original idea with the 'points system' which was suggested on the linked thread.
"We shouldn't count the winning streak in matches, but in ranking points won. So the values contained in this table would be "the amount of points won since the last points loss". It would be a good indicator of who is in a great form, and would be evenly fair for lower and higher ranked players"
That way if someone plays low ranked players just to get a streak going, they won't win so many points from it so really it would be more beneficial to play players of similar rank to yourself. That's the only way i can see that it won't be abused by constantly playing players who are vastly below your own level of play
"We shouldn't count the winning streak in matches, but in ranking points won. So the values contained in this table would be "the amount of points won since the last points loss". It would be a good indicator of who is in a great form, and would be evenly fair for lower and higher ranked players"
That way if someone plays low ranked players just to get a streak going, they won't win so many points from it so really it would be more beneficial to play players of similar rank to yourself. That's the only way i can see that it won't be abused by constantly playing players who are vastly below your own level of play
09:06 Thu 23 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
However my idea doesn't take friendlies into account.
Therefore, I think the very best solution would be to join the 2 statistics, for example:
winning streak: 25.7 points in 14 games
where the games would include the friendlies as well.
However if these values were to be put in a top-10-table, they should be ordered by points only (to avoid people to play only low opponents). The games count could still be displayed in the table, but only having an informational value.
Example of such a table to make it clear:
Name | Streak
blutch | 25.7 points (14 games)
damee | 23.5 points (17 games)
mrmagic | 18.0 points (6 games)
ste_efc | 17.8 points (35 games)
...
Therefore, I think the very best solution would be to join the 2 statistics, for example:
winning streak: 25.7 points in 14 games
where the games would include the friendlies as well.
However if these values were to be put in a top-10-table, they should be ordered by points only (to avoid people to play only low opponents). The games count could still be displayed in the table, but only having an informational value.
Example of such a table to make it clear:
Name | Streak
blutch | 25.7 points (14 games)
damee | 23.5 points (17 games)
mrmagic | 18.0 points (6 games)
ste_efc | 17.8 points (35 games)
...
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09:20 Thu 23 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
Good idea martin, but the last flaw is that ya could go on another account and gain loads in 1 day, but could be solved if you exclude newbies (but then that's a bit unfair on 'actual' newbies)
11:50 Thu 23 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
you lot are making it to complicated!. I think all you need is some kind of info next to your rank when you enter a game where it says your current winning streak. For example
joe_bloggs (800.0/-4 ) v dansta (821.4/+ 5)
how the winning streak would work speaks for itself. say if i won 3 in a row then i would be on a winning strak of +3 and if id lost my last 2 games id be on a winning streak of -2.
I think your current winning streak or best winning streak should go on the profile, however when your about to play someone it will be good to see as to what kind of form they are on! imagine making someones 50 win streak come to an end! :p
you could also have a ranking for the best winning streak achieved! i know what your gunna say 'people will just play newbies to get their streak up!' well so be it lol coz there rank will hardly go up and they will be wasting their time.
you could also have announcements in the game window similar to the high breaks. for example joe_bloggs has just ended dansta's 100 winning streak! or dansta now has a winning streak of 50 :D
i see no reason why this shoudnt be implemented as the coding for it is easy!
Edited at 17:11 Thu 23/04/09 (BST)
joe_bloggs (800.0/-4 ) v dansta (821.4/+ 5)
how the winning streak would work speaks for itself. say if i won 3 in a row then i would be on a winning strak of +3 and if id lost my last 2 games id be on a winning streak of -2.
I think your current winning streak or best winning streak should go on the profile, however when your about to play someone it will be good to see as to what kind of form they are on! imagine making someones 50 win streak come to an end! :p
you could also have a ranking for the best winning streak achieved! i know what your gunna say 'people will just play newbies to get their streak up!' well so be it lol coz there rank will hardly go up and they will be wasting their time.
you could also have announcements in the game window similar to the high breaks. for example joe_bloggs has just ended dansta's 100 winning streak! or dansta now has a winning streak of 50 :D
i see no reason why this shoudnt be implemented as the coding for it is easy!
Edited at 17:11 Thu 23/04/09 (BST)
12:17 Thu 23 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
Well the whole point in making it so complicated is that the winning streak as number of wins wouldn't necessarily represent the player's form, because it doesn't take the opponent's level into account.
That's why I suggested the rank-based streak in the other thread, which would represent much better someone's form. Just think that beating 30 novices in a row isn't much of an achievement, but beating 10 pro's in a row is already a nice one.
The goal is not to make it complicated, but to make it an information that is as valuable as possible, therefore making it representing the best the player's form is a priority in this case.
That's why I suggested the rank-based streak in the other thread, which would represent much better someone's form. Just think that beating 30 novices in a row isn't much of an achievement, but beating 10 pro's in a row is already a nice one.
The goal is not to make it complicated, but to make it an information that is as valuable as possible, therefore making it representing the best the player's form is a priority in this case.
12:21 Thu 23 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
theres no need for a rank based system its just over complicating things. just a simple, to the point statistic will do, not necesarily to give an idea of form but just a simple fun stat!
anyway this is a family site no one is going to care about a ranked based system neway because its to complicated
Edited at 17:30 Thu 23/04/09 (BST)
anyway this is a family site no one is going to care about a ranked based system neway because its to complicated
Edited at 17:30 Thu 23/04/09 (BST)
12:30 Thu 23 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
I actually don't see what is so complicated in my proposition.
Basically, your proposition answers the question "How many games have I won since my last loss?", while mine answers the question "How many ranking points have I won since my last loss?". Both are easily understandable, and I don't see how it can be called "complicated".
You can be sure that if a system that only counts wins is put in, there will be people who will play unskilled opponents, just to get their stats artificially up.
Finally, in my last proposal (9th post in this thread), both your and my suggestion are merged, with the advantage of ordering people only on a valuable basis (the rank streak), while still displaying the win streak. Because it merges everyone's ideas, everyone should be pleased, shouldn't they?
Basically, your proposition answers the question "How many games have I won since my last loss?", while mine answers the question "How many ranking points have I won since my last loss?". Both are easily understandable, and I don't see how it can be called "complicated".
You can be sure that if a system that only counts wins is put in, there will be people who will play unskilled opponents, just to get their stats artificially up.
Finally, in my last proposal (9th post in this thread), both your and my suggestion are merged, with the advantage of ordering people only on a valuable basis (the rank streak), while still displaying the win streak. Because it merges everyone's ideas, everyone should be pleased, shouldn't they?
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09:52 Fri 24 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
why not just have a pot success percentage like killer except instead of working out the percentage for each pot... work it out for each game..
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10:02 Fri 24 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
Why would that be odd? If someone really wins 10 10 man killer games in a row, then (s)he really has beaten 90 opponents in a row.
For killer there would indeed probably be higher streaks than for other game types, but it's still a valuable piece of information in itself.
I think Mike was saying "theres a 90 odd streak already" as in, a 90 streak already. Lmao. You got the wrong end of the stick there blutch!
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virtuoso107 said:
What about killer? If people win 10 10 man killer games theres 90 odd streak already
Why would that be odd? If someone really wins 10 10 man killer games in a row, then (s)he really has beaten 90 opponents in a row.
For killer there would indeed probably be higher streaks than for other game types, but it's still a valuable piece of information in itself.
I think Mike was saying "theres a 90 odd streak already" as in, a 90 streak already. Lmao. You got the wrong end of the stick there blutch!
10:05 Fri 24 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
Why would that be odd? If someone really wins 10 10 man killer games in a row, then (s)he really has beaten 90 opponents in a row.
For killer there would indeed probably be higher streaks than for other game types, but it's still a valuable piece of information in itself.
You misunderstood my english slang martin I didn't mean it was odd but 90 odd as in 91-98 wins etc, And the point i was making was surely it would have to be separated in game types.
EDIT: Didn't see ryans post ha!
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virtuoso107 said:
What about killer? If people win 10 10 man killer games theres 90 odd streak already
Why would that be odd? If someone really wins 10 10 man killer games in a row, then (s)he really has beaten 90 opponents in a row.
For killer there would indeed probably be higher streaks than for other game types, but it's still a valuable piece of information in itself.
You misunderstood my english slang martin I didn't mean it was odd but 90 odd as in 91-98 wins etc, And the point i was making was surely it would have to be separated in game types.
EDIT: Didn't see ryans post ha!
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10:51 Fri 24 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
yes each game type should have current win streak, its pretty simple and a good tool to use to judge your opponents form
if he person has a win streak of say 15, yes they cud of lplayed low rank, but hey we have an events tab to look in more detail dont we!
if he person has a win streak of say 15, yes they cud of lplayed low rank, but hey we have an events tab to look in more detail dont we!
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