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08:21 Wed 21 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
how about makin it no possible to put spin on the ball where it is blatently not possible, i left cue ball tight on cushion an some how my opponemt managed to get all that bottom to come back all the way up table, or if cueball is blocked by anoter ball stoppin certain spin from being used, kinda stops the safty shots if it still possible to controll the ball fully,
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08:28 Wed 21 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
Well, i disagree with this idea, because i usually play sloppy positional shots, thus leaving the ball on the cushion, and having the put back spin to get back to my position.

And other break builders my feel the same, having said that, some others might like the idea
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08:32 Wed 21 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
Actually wouldnt mind this. Thought of it a few times, it would really make the game more challenging and in turn would make people better players. It would lead to a few " Oh my god!" moments but then we would learn from that.
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08:37 Wed 21 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
just my opinion but yea would make the game better
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09:04 Wed 21 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
The fact of the matter is though you can generate screw when tight on a cushion by simply raising the butt of the cue.
adam_147
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09:07 Wed 21 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
damee said:
The fact of the matter is though you can generate screw when tight on a cushion by simply raising the butt of the cue.


But doing that sacrifices control, and of course that would be very hard to implement into the game.

You cant do that shot over another ball though, as you can hit the cushion with the cue but you cant hit another ball...
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09:16 Wed 21 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
I never said anything about over another ball...

Yes it does sacrifice control, unless you hit it perfect, which the game assumes you do every time at the moment.
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09:17 Wed 21 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
lag creates the illusion of a miscue though
adam_147
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10:02 Wed 21 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
damee said:
I never said anything about over another ball...

Yes it does sacrifice control, unless you hit it perfect, which the game assumes you do every time at the moment.


oh i know you didnt, was just mentioning it .

And something that could introduce a small error, even like 1% or 0.5% so that 1 in 100 or 1 in 200 shots wasnt hit perfectly would make the game interesting. Would also mean if you were playing someone like yourself damee that leaving the table open for them wouldnt necessarily mean end of frame.
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10:22 Wed 21 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
should be able to put side on to go round a ball to get out of a snooker...
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10:32 Wed 21 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
not possible on 2D game. needs a 3D game engine to do that
virtuoso147
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14:26 Wed 21 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
flame_potter said:
Well, i disagree with this idea, because i usually play sloppy positional shots, thus leaving the ball on the cushion, and having the put back spin to get back to my position.

And other break builders my feel the same, having said that, some others might like the idea


That is why this idea is good, makes positioning a lot harder and will make you think differently about each shot.

Edited at 19:30 Wed 21/04/10 (BST)
virtuoso147
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14:28 Wed 21 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
damee said:
The fact of the matter is though you can generate screw when tight on a cushion by simply raising the butt of the cue.


In all fairness you can not do that, if its tight on the cush and the object ball is the other side of the table there is no possible way you can screw back from it.

Maybe if the object ball is a few mm's from the white ball then it is possible to generate a little bit of screw.

Edited at 19:31 Wed 21/04/10 (BST)
begger
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17:40 Wed 21 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
i think your trying to make the game a bit to real..u have to think of the title..funky snooker
virtuoso147
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17:41 Wed 21 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
The name has nothing to do with it.
iamtheworst
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17:43 Wed 21 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
begger said:
i think your trying to make the game a bit to real..u have to think of the title..funky snooker


Being the longest running moderator you should know that the name doesn't imply that it should be unrealistic but refers to the fact the game size is so small and so easy to run it can be played on older machines and internet connections.

Also, I like the idea of not being able to add spin when, realistically, its close to impossible.
cue_power
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07:39 Thu 22 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
I love all the sly digs at eachother, well done all.

This idea has contributing factors, if this were to be implemented then other factors would need to be aswell.

Damee suggests backspin can be generated by raising the butt, but if the white is tight on the cushion then back spin is borderline impossible. Of course you can arch the cue down on the white vertically, but realistically how could you expect to play positionally on the next ball, you couldnt, that is why the shot isnt used in snooker.

Also if the white was slightly off the cushion, then backspin can be created but yet again, positionally itsvery difficult to control it. The white will bounce, skip or hop when doing this shot as your hitting the white into the table in order to generate this spin.

So if this is implemented (which i dont think it has a chance) then all that would need to be added too.

Its like adding kicks to an online snooker game, would be funny to take your shot and the white to jump off the table tho pmsl.
adam_147
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09:27 Thu 22 Apr 10 (BST)  [Link]  
There is another problem here: just say they found a way to make it so that you couldnt hit with backspin when the cue ball was tight on the cushion. Realistically it would have to be done by having an "area" round the table where backspin wasnt an option.

However if the cue ball is tight on the cushion and i wish to play along the cushion, you can still hit that shot with full backspin as the cushion doesnt affect it. So the game would be required to change what spin you could do based on where you were aiming to shoot. Im not sure if that is possible to actually do on the game, though if someone can think of how to im happy to be proved wrong.
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