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budweiser
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12:50 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Even i have tapped the ball in killer on cushion if person behide me has had 1 life haha yes, just to win!!! the player turned around and went i would have done same to win!
si123
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14:08 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Lol!!!

See I love killer, used to be halfdecent at it aswell, but I love a fair open game aswell if 5 people join I want them all go for their shot and their chosen safety I don't care about rank if I did I would only go in games 750+ where I know the people and I know they won't 'cheat'

But you can't stop people teaming up it's just a way of killer, I was in a 3 man and the 2 other people were shocking, but the player 1 did well kept potting then player 2 would roll up no intention of going for the shot and that's when I started to get annoyed luckily for me a few hit and hopes and player 2 was out so went on to win it WOOHOO lol

But on the other side I have being in a few 10 man killers before with certain people and more than once I would leave a black or a easy shot, not in the chance I wanted them to snooker the person after but just so they could go longer into the game

End of day people see it as looking after their own but know I would never tap that's awful Mark lol
dgeneratio
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14:12 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
other times in 4 man + if i saw no way to pot black if person next to me was on 3 lives i would give them the black so others can't get it (another one of my useful killer tips)
si123
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14:20 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
THat's 1 of my tips

If I can't pot black make sure somebody on 3 lifes gets it

Also always think of the pot before safety it's obvious but how many times people miss as they tried to do to much with the cue ball is unreal lol
dgeneratio
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14:23 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
si123 said:
THat's 1 of my tips

If I can't pot black make sure somebody on 3 lifes gets it

Also always think of the pot before safety it's obvious but how many times people miss as they tried to do to much with the cue ball is unreal lol

i had that loads of times, especially on orig position wise, also when i go for pot, focus on cannon but only get 50%.
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14:55 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
i play killer in real life every tuesday.. and people team up all the time until there the last 2 and then they play for the win. killer is a game of tactics and if people decide to team up and then win from that then they have chosen the right tactics.

i would never do this and hate when it happens and love it when u come out on top even tho they were teaming up..
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15:56 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
whocares8x8 - stop whining. lose the sour grapes. no one has died.....


budweiser
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16:55 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
face facts killer can only have 1 winner, so all teams to get the best out, then goes to the next best - simple!

si123 said:
End of day people see it as looking after their own but know I would never tap that's awful Mark lol


didnt mean to but we play to win!!!! just remember that...
dgeneratio
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17:00 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
right ok, more pushouts and timeouts in tournaments for me

phahahaha im joking


Edited at 14:04 Fri 28/10/11 (BST)
dgeneratio
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17:04 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
budweiser said:
I have to agree with cloone here, even i would help people learn shots and tell them what to do, its like saying you was on 120 in reg and yellow on cushion, would u advise someone to double it if shot was on or just hit and hope? i think you would say!

No matter how good you are, you will always get beat at some point...

To me people over rate good players to much, always expecting them to win when at some point someone will come along and beat you.


centuries is different though you can't really cheat in a 2 player game unless you play yourself etc its up to you if you want to help your opponent to a cent as its only you and opponent where as killer there are 3 or more.

thats the difference
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17:08 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
better take them all off who played pushouts on you seb

and true if you want to catch someone at it, ignore is certainly not a good idea, but friends list is


apparently would have been more correct seb's, conspiracy of pushouts lol.
whocares8x8
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17:34 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
adam_147 said:
If i can't see an obvious safety, or if there are only 3 balls left, I will leave an easy pot to the person after me so they will hopefully have an easy safety on the next person. This isn't collusion, just clever play.
I completely agree with this. I am not talking about those situations. It is perfectly acceptable to leave an easy shot for the next person.

What is not acceptable is people openly chatting about what shots to take, planning several shots in advance how to set up another player.

Budweiser- First you said yes there should be a rule on this and admin will bring it up to nick, now you're saying playing in teams is ok? Interesting change of heart.

This was never about me wanting the points back/"sour grapes". In my complaint to admin I specifically said I don't want the points back or the game removed.

This thread has served its purpose. Now we know that open collusion is fine.
budweiser
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17:45 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
budweiser said:
I have to agree with cloone here, even i would help people learn shots and tell them what to do, its like saying you was on 120 in reg and yellow on cushion, would u advise someone to double it if shot was on or just hit and hope? i think you would say!

No matter how good you are, you will always get beat at some point...

To me people over rate good players to much, always expecting them to win when at some point someone will come along and beat you.



centuries is different though you can't really cheat in a 2 player game unless you play yourself etc its up to you if you want to help your opponent to a cent as its only you and opponent where as killer there are 3 or more.

thats the difference


dgen i wasnt born yesterday you know!!!

was i on about any game type, just saying all loses at some point even the best players!!! if you dont lose you dont learn! simple
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21:18 Sat 29 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
it's hard to tell what's a fair shot sometimes in killer. maybe killer should have no rules because it's so complicated in that department.
whocares8x8
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21:29 Sat 29 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Just to clear it up: I wasn't talking about the shots taken. You can choose whether to leave it safe or not.
I was talking about openly talking with each other to plan ahead and set another player up.
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21:34 Sat 29 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
budweiser said:
Even i have tapped the ball in killer on cushion if person behide me has had 1 life haha yes, just to win!!! the player turned around and went i would have done same to win!



Thats part of the game, whoever doesn't like it shouldn't play killer!

Haha @ robbiebarlow, now i know I'm not the only person who noticed that whocares does an awful lot of moaning!
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21:36 Sat 29 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
so if i have a shot where i cant pot anything i roll up to a red. is that ok?
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21:37 Sat 29 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
As far as i know yeah, the rules should be the same as real life?
whocares8x8
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21:45 Sat 29 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Sure it's ok. It's not very nice lol, but not against the rules.
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21:47 Sat 29 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I never play killer on here but i play a lot in for life for money, and everyone is ok with rolling up if theres no pot on to screw the person over whos next, so i can't see why anyone should have a problem with it on here.
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