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22:01 Tue 17 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
i asked in members bar if any1 knew how it picks who plays 1st when its a draw and the black has to be potted again,got a few different answers from 1) whoever broke 2)highest break 3)its random. any1 know the correct answer??? and if its who broke,how does it pick who breaks????
dgeneratio
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22:02 Tue 17 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
random
g_k
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22:04 Tue 17 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
I'm with Dgen, I'm sure this has come up before and it is totally random
adam_147
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22:05 Tue 17 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
What they said ^^^. Completely random.
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22:10 Tue 17 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Random unless you are me then 80% of the time you don't get it
jay_afc
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22:11 Tue 17 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
virt_slayer said:
Random unless you are me then 80% of the time you don't get it

I second that!
adam_147
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22:14 Tue 17 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
How many games would you say that 80% not getting them is over, I'll test if its relevant or not.
whocares8x8
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22:15 Tue 17 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
^nerd
adam_147
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22:16 Tue 17 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
I spent the last day revising for an exam where I had to be able to do those tests without thinking about it, may as well make the most of it before I forget how to do it all .
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22:52 Tue 17 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Im sure Mr.Math^^ will agree that nothing is TOTALLY random....however, for a pattern to emerge it would need a massive sample.
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22:56 Tue 17 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
iv noticed that each time thats happened to me its gone to the opposite person :/ dunno why lol
adam_147
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23:00 Tue 17 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
arpeggi said:
Im sure Mr.Math^^ will agree that nothing is TOTALLY random....however, for a pattern to emerge it would need a massive sample.
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Mr Maths <- i like that s by the way , disagrees, Brownian Motion is completely random . Also the outcome of a variable which has the continuous uniform distribution is also random and every outcome is equally likely.

However, I do agree that a computer is not able to generate a random number using any method.

Edited at 22:00 Tue 17/01/12 (GMT)
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23:40 Tue 17 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Beg my pardon....yes i ment computers.....
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00:01 Wed 18 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
so its random then? lol
adam_147
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00:02 Wed 18 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
No it isn't random, it's probably a 50.0000000000000000001% chance of winning for one person... But unless you plan on playing a few trillion trillion games it won't matter .
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15:20 Wed 18 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
so unless you play a few trillion trillion games in order for Adam's maths to work out, then yes it is random
nick
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15:21 Wed 18 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
It is random, next patch will clarify this in the game text eg "Black ball respotted! nick to play (randomly chosen)".
budweiser
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15:59 Wed 18 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
random was said by many mod/members in members bar!
adam_147
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00:52 Fri 20 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Anyone who is wondering about a computer generating random numbers, I took this straight from my lecture notes:

Adam's Lecture Notes said:
In order to simulate random processes we need a method for generating random events. Unfortunately computers are deterministic machines and there is therefore no way that a computer can generate a truly
random process. However all modern computers have random number generators, or strictly speaking, pseudo-random number generators which mimic randomness. These pseudo-random number generators, whilst being deterministic in nature, generate sequence of numbers which would pass all the tests of randomness (from a distributional sense).


I hope that clears things up.
jack_pot
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01:11 Fri 20 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
adam_147 said:
Anyone who is wondering about a computer generating random numbers, I took this straight from my lecture notes:

Adam's Lecture Notes said:
In order to simulate random processes we need a method for generating random events. Unfortunately computers are deterministic machines and there is therefore no way that a computer can generate a truly
random process. However all modern computers have random number generators, or strictly speaking, pseudo-random number generators which mimic randomness. These pseudo-random number generators, whilst being deterministic in nature, generate sequence of numbers which would pass all the tests of randomness (from a distributional sense).


I hope that clears things up.


So what you're saying is that computers can generate totally random numbers? Cool
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