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daviking
daviking
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17:45 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
The rules dont say anything about friendly being default, they say there is no restriction on room type.

The site default is ranked, and i have yet to encounter any player in any game type who doesnt prefer ranked.

The rule you highlighted there simply says if either player doesnt want to play ranked then it must be friendly which is common sense. The fact was i was lied to in the beginning by being told clan games had to be friendly, which is not what the rules say.
chezz
chezz
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17:49 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Seriously, are you still rambling on? It's been explained to you, if both parties agree, then make it ranked, you aint going to make the whole thing ranked, just leave it now
dgeneratio
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17:53 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
If both don't agree it has to be friendly, simple as that.
If both agree THEN it can be ranked, not until then.

Ex. Me and you play, You invite me to Ranked, I refuse as i dislike Ranked then it must be a Friendly.

It has been Friendly for six years, Why would i change it now?

Rank is meaningless now anyway, i'm almost a 600 in Straight but does it mean i'm a 600 caliber, Nope. I'm around 725-750 i would say.

If you want pure Ranked games then play outside the League unless everyone you play doesn't mind Ranked.
dgeneratio
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17:57 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Seriously, are you still rambling on? It's been explained to you, if both parties agree, then make it ranked, you aint going to make the whole thing ranked, just leave it now


She just wants the League to be pure Ranked games like Tournaments but i control the League and while i can't control what changes the site makes, I can at least enforce my own rules for the league (most rules people came up with themselves like Cup + 6 Frames).

While i'm Runner Ranked will only happen if both players agree, nothing else and only way i wouldn't be Runner is if i resigned which won't happen
chezz
chezz
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18:00 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Seriously, are you still rambling on? It's been explained to you, if both parties agree, then make it ranked, you aint going to make the whole thing ranked, just leave it now


She just wants the League to be pure Ranked games like Tournaments but i control the League and while i can't control what changes the site makes, I can at least enforce my own rules for the league (most rules people came up with themselves like Cup + 6 Frames).

While i'm Runner Ranked will only happen if both players agree, nothing else and only way i wouldn't be Runner is if i resigned which won't happen


I know mate, but it's been the same for years, just because one person wants to change it, doesn't mean it's going to change, saying that if both parties want it ranked in their fixture, is actually a fair compromise, and she should take it and run
dgeneratio
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18:10 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Yep true, don't worry, it won't be changed.

If she has to play Friendly when opponent disagrees then not my problem.

I'm not having ago at her and still trying to be professional but changing site to be ranked and changing league to be ranked is different and i over reacted with tournaments but when people say the same thing, over and over, it gets me down then i get annoyed
chezz
chezz
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18:44 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Don't worry about it too much mate, the vast majority is behind you here
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18:49 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
why fix something that isn't broken
dgeneratio
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18:52 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
^ exactly
daviking
daviking
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19:06 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
There is nothing to fix! The rules say, rightly, that games can be ranked unless one or both players want it otherwise, which is completely sensible and logical.

That has never been the point of my query, the rules are the rules, final.

My initial query was to ask why the games had to be non-ranked, because thats what I was told when accepting to play in a clan. It turns out that was a lie, and destroyer sorted it for me right away.

The follow up was simply to try to understand the logic in having clan games (not the whole site or tournaments or anything else, only clan games) be able to be non-ranked as it means they are not recorded, so can be open to dispute.

So let me re-phrase it more simply; why give people the option to play non-recorded games when you could easily just have them recorded?
dgeneratio
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19:12 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Both players has to agree, jeez. (starting to get annoyed)

it is recorded in the results page.

Tomorrow i'm going to reword the rule for davikings benefit.

3.2 Game Room Type
There are no restrictions on the game room type. Both players must agree on the conditions of the game room. If no agreement can be reached, the games must be played as friendly unranked games.

to...

3.2 Game Room Type
a) Both players must agree to play Ranked games in the game room. If no agreement can be reached, the games must be played as friendly unranked games.

b) If a player accidentally invites to Ranked, the other player must agree or the Ranked game will be canceled and the remaining must be played as friendly unranked games.

In the case of b) happening and the player agrees to play Ranked then the frame will count.

^ Is that clear enough for you?
daviking
daviking
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19:30 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Why change anything? The rule was simpler as it was before.

I have never at any point disputed the rule, it is perfect, or was

And friendly results arent recorded. I just tested it. Thats what im curioius about. Obviously if results of friendlies were recorded it would make no difference to organisers
dgeneratio
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19:31 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
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19:31 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
heliosuk
heliosuk
Arcade Snooker Friendly - heliosuk (1) 16-0 (0) daviking (by default, daviking left the game)
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daviking
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dgeneratio
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19:33 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Why change anything? The rule was simpler as it was before.

I have never at any point disputed the rule, it is perfect, or was


Because of you. I haven't had to change it in six years as everyone knew what it meant.

To save going in circles, i'm going to reword it so then you can understand.
dgeneratio
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19:34 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
And friendly results arent recorded. I just tested it. Thats what im curioius about. Obviously if results of friendlies were recorded it would make no difference to organisers


Yup it is recorded on your profile results for 5 days i think. You don't gain or lose Rank and that is the point of League games.
chezz
chezz
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19:38 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
why fix something that isn't broken


Perfectly said

Anyone getting fed up of repeating themselves?
daviking
daviking
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19:41 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Very, dont see what the ibsession with changing it is!

just tested a friendly and it isnt on my results page. Hmmm.

Ok nevermind then, if its recorded then makes no difference.

Im not in favour of changing such a simple rule to a more confising one but its up to you.
dgeneratio
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19:45 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
its simple to everyone else but you think if you want ranked it has to be ranked when it isn't the case as the opponent has to agree.

if you understood, i wouldn't have to change a 6 year rule because of one player.

To view Results, go to Your Profile, Press Results and it shows your recent games. You can view your Breaks by pressing Events as well and shows 6 months.
chezz
chezz
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19:45 Thu 4 Aug 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Could you please tell me what this is then??




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