Is is possible to make potting from the break in snooker a foul?

It's no fun whatsoever to be playing a first to 1 match where you dont even get one shot in! That's not even a match- its just someone watching another guy practice!

And its the guys most likely to get the huge breaks that do it, which sucks even more fun out of playing good people- if you dont get the break you're pretty much just sitting there for ten minutes twiddling your thumbs.

No turns in a match- Not what I signed up for, ta.

Potting from break (and clearing up) is so difficult that there is no way that should be introduced.
It will make most snookergames way longer as there will be more safeplay in the first part of the game.

Hang on, so make a perfectly good shot a foul? You hit a red first, you pot a red then that's a fair shot.

The risk/reward factor for trying to pot off the break is 50/50. If a red doesn't go in, you have opened up the frame for your opponent. If you don't like twiddling your thumbs for 5-10 minutes, then this probably isn't the game for you.

You can't expect to play this game and not sit out for the odd game or two because your opponent is a good player. I'm sure you would prefer the game when you an pot reds on the break rather than when you can't.

boring people tap:D

Actually safety play shows how good a player really is.

Anyone can line up the white circle, but not everyone can work out where its best to get one over on the other guy.

Safety play makes games more interesting- big breaks are just dull, both to make and to watch, because you don't have any dynamic in the frame, just "well look at that, a two/three figure number".

I'm just saying that, whilst it is a legal shot, it takes the intelligence out of the game.

Arcade isn't about safety in my eye. If you where speaking about Original it's a different matter. Big breaks take intelligence for spin, cue speed, etc. What isn't interesting about making a two/three figure number break?

It's just not as interesting as safety. Doubtless for people who are into that its great and fascinating and if the balls are really hard to get to even i enjoy it, but its not as satisfying to make a half century than it is to really screw someone in a safety exchange, probably because that doesnt get paraded across your profile- its more about the moment than creating some sort of legacy to intimidate others or big up one's ego.

Thats why making a half century or century is satisfying, it's on your profile and you have record of it. Would you pm your mate to tell them you played a racking safety?

Your thinking to much about it mate.

If a player wants to play a pot then he is entitled to do so, as long as it is done within the laws of the game, and if not a foul is given.

From my 10 years watching the game of snooker, I have always thought that the point in safety play was to force your opponent into giving you the chance to make high break.

I know from my experience that I don't get any sense of achievement out of a good safety shot, unless it forces an error.

So how can big breaks be dull. I don't understand.

Simple solution. Play original if you are sick of people potting off the break, original has more of an element of safety. Plus its called arcade for a reason...

This is how i've always thought of it. arcade is like snooker on a pool table where as original is real life snooker with the table dynamics and size etc: Thats why people pot regulary on arcade from the break, they find a break shot and try to perfect it because the table dynamics are different....i think.

As for what mike said... there is risk but thats what people are willing to do. tapping to the pack for 10mins on arcade makes the frame scrappy in my opinion because of the table space (or lack of table space).

Good point also damee

And thats all the points summed up so play original if it bothers you so much.

calm down guys, all i said was it spoils the game. No need to get out the crucifixion kits!

Ok dont get cross.



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What? Its a debate, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

A group of people collectively slamming a guy for his 1 slighlty contentious comment= not a debate

p.s. I love the way that whatever the original post in a forum, it always degenerates into one of these semi-argumantative barrages of opinion

oops, another contentious point... here we go again!

Well maybe if your contentious comment was a helpful one it might attract people on to your side of this topic.