I like the idea of getting rid of random shots. Like said above its not like the ref randomly hits the white if a player aint took a shot in time.

I would like to point out 2 potential problems that i can see could happen:

1. The first one. For example. I am playing in a 90second game. (these do appear every now and then). I break off and snooker my opponent behind the green. Because my opponent is unhappy with the situation. And wants to annoy me. They might just wait for the 90seconds to pass knowing the balls will be in same position. So it becomes my go. I request the player to play again. I put him/her in the situation, they should have to get out of it. They wait the 90seconds again and knowing they have only given 8points away have already wasted 3minutes of time. 3rd shot now i request again making it up to almost 5minutes of waiting time on one shot. For them to hit the ball in the last second.

Not saying this will happen but its a possibility. Even in a 20second game. That is still a minute in time waiting. Some people would do this. You might say dont play 90second games. That isnt the point i am making.

Point 2 on next post due to too many characters.

Edited at 03:04 Sat 16/05/09 (BST)

2. I am on a break. I play a poor shot off a red and end up nestled to the bunch of reds. Snookered myself on hitting a colour directly. I could attempt to come of a cushion and hit a colour knowing if i miss, my opponent will have a decent chance to go on and win the frame. (which i dont really want to happen). If i hit a colour there is no gurantee in getting the white safe. I have a look and no reds are easily pottable either. I just wait for time to finish. Give 4points away but im still in game. And if opponent puts me back in. I can hit a red and not give away any more points. Using the auto foul to more of an advantage to myself than the opponent.

Again it may be a rare situation for some players. Im just trying to make examples.

Hope i explained them well enough. And would like to hear peoples opinions on it.

Also 3 questions.

1. Will there definately be a request opponent to play button after they auto foul?
2. Same as random, 3 no-shots means logged out.
3. If blue, pink and black only balls left on table will auto foul give 5points? ( and same with pink and black)

Edited at 03:07 Sat 16/05/09 (BST)

Apologies for triple post and any typo errors.

I forgot to add. Funkysnooker is what it is. If it was to be realistic then it would be 3D. That isnt going to happen nor would i want it to happen.

A few ideas recently have been making funkysnooker more realistic. But it just would not be funkysnooker if it was any different.

Thoughts appreciated anyway.

Edited at 03:09 Sat 16/05/09 (BST)

I agree with those that say the random shot should go.

It's pretty and all to see a cueball fly off of its own accord, but really it makes much more sense to just pass it over and give them the points.

But the '3 and you concede by default' thing should remain, so as the other person is then able to press the 'magic-blue-turn-takey-switcheroo-button'

We decided get rid of Random shot yet?

In orig some 850 rank guy did a random shot and potted of it hes currently as I type this clearing up lets sort it out ay

maybe treat is as a no shot and treat is as a foul?

how about there being a cutoff point - the player that dosen't play his/her shot has a automatic foul of X amount of points and then if they have 3 automatic fouls, then it goes to a random shot. It's combining both ideas into 1 idea.

Edited at 14:18 Wed 27/05/09 (BST)

Edited at 14:22 Wed 27/05/09 (BST)

3 automatic fouls in a row logs you off the game for inactivity.

Yup yup ^^

so whats to say that that rule should be changed ?

make it to be like foul, 4 points penalty !
And respoting white ball

ok, maybe then it could be 2 fouls then the 3rd foul would be the random shot as a punishment

I like the idea of a instant foul 4 points and respot of the white

Oooh, not really keen on that idea as it could be expoited if you are in a tricky situation.

e.g. you are in a tough snooker and your opponent needs 2 snookers to win. If you let the time run out and the white is respotted (well I assume you mean place in the D as the white doesn't get respotted in snooker). Your opponent may find it difficult to re-lay the snooker.

maybe have a button which lets you replace balls after a foul

If it was an automatic foul then nothing will have move though so no need for the button (in this case). The idea of replacing the balls after a foul is a separate discussion (http://www.funkysnooker.com/viewTopic.do?topicid=5338&page=3) and I think, from that, Nick is weighing up the pros and cons of that argument

Well, when you do not have a solution look into a manual. Let see what standard rules are saying.
standard rules are not have time expire option players need te shoot. Well we have a time limit so we need to invent smthng. In anything we choose from above we get a chance do not fault that who "stretch" the time. Because we give him a possibility of that additional shot. So let just a give 4 pts to foult and do nothing on the table an give hime another shot

Standard rules actually do have a time expire rule, as damee reminded us:


I think that would be the best option, as it's standard rules and the online game would live well with it.

Well let's vote !

I for standard rule.

Well there could be trial periods of all ideas like they did in rugby with the ELV's. After all the ideas have been tried it could be put to a vote for the members on which was the best idea. Obviously, the favourite one would be used. It's a hard choice to make but I think that this would help.