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dgeneratio
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15:53 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
10. If one (or both) of the players leaves without any given reason then the player who did not leave can take that frame if he/she wishes but its more appropriate and sporting to replay that frame

could be replaced with.

10. If one (or both) players leaves without any given reason (family emergencies are acceptable, you need a screenshot or text to prove this) then the player who did not leave can take that frame if he/she wishes but its more appropriate and sporting to replay that frame

and rule 9 could be removed.

what you think?
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16:06 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
Well it just depends on the situation I suppose.

Like if i was 30 points up with 20 remaining and my opponent left, id take a screenshot to prove i was ahead in case of confusion.

I think the onus should be on the player left behind to prove he deserved the frame or else it should just be replayed
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16:10 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
if they need snookers and left by all rights the frame should not be replayed as they had it won anyway.

very true i have to trust players to make the right call, maybe send a message to the other person asking why they left without a word and then the player who did leave can leave a reply.

but the exception here is what if you don't get an answer within 24 hours of sending the message (person who did leave was online since then)

what should happen, give frame to player who stayed in game room?

or both players could agree when they play next what happens.

Edited at 13:14 Tue 12/10/10 (BST)
whocares8x8
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19:02 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
1. how about the score is 0-0 and he's just blasted the pack, potted none, and leaves because it's all open for me to clear now...
2. i dont have a problem with screenshots, but some people might not know how to do them...
dgeneratio
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19:20 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
messaging other person could be option but if the player is sporting enough they should agree to a restart unless its in the snooker required stage.
whocares8x8
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19:29 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
so we are giving the other person a free shot at blasting pack to see if something pots?
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19:42 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
only thing i can suggest is allowing the person who didn't leave the right to restart the frame or win that one but if the opponent write that he/she has to go then the frame should be replayed imo. If the frame is in snooker required stage the person in front should win that frame.

If they leave for a tournament during the league game this should be noted immediately and the person still in the room will win that frame by default (unless both enter or its at start of the game).

if everyone is ok with this i will update this on the new forum.

Edited at 16:51 Tue 12/10/10 (BST)
whocares8x8
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19:55 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
only thing i can suggest is allowing the person who didn't leave the right to restart the frame or win that one but if the opponent write that he/she has to go then the frame should be replayed imo.
Edited at 16:51 Tue 12/10/10 (BST)

ok that sounds decent. i do think that one should tell the other person before the frame starts that one has to leave. In that case, the person leaving is clearly not gaining an advantage.
I'm not sure it should only be a win in the 'snooker required' stage, because i could be 50-0 up and open table when he leaves. there would not be snookers required yet, but it's clearly to the other person's advantage to leave and get a replay...
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19:55 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
This all getting a bit too hypothetical...

Dgen, out of interest, have you actually had any problems with people abusing this rule?


g_echo_l said:
jaaaames said:
If you leave for whatever reason you concede that frame....?
Its a bit unfair though if you just start a frame or something and have only taken the break off shot and perhaps your kid starts crying and you have to leave.
Wellll... you win some you lose some. There's always going to be exceptional circumstances where the rule might appear unfair. But at least it makes it simple having a clear cut rule like the one I suggested... where it's heading at the moment seems a bit over the top to me.

Edited at 16:59 Tue 12/10/10 (BST)
whocares8x8
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19:56 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
most people here are fair players anyway, so it's probably not that important. but i can think of a few people who would resort to this in important situations towards the end of the season...
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19:57 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
whocares8x8 said:
i could be 50-0 up and open table when he leaves. there would not be snookers required yet, but it's clearly to the other person's advantage to leave and get a replay...

Ummmm... you'd have to be really really sad....
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19:57 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
yeah but like i said its up to player who did not leave if he/she wants to take frame or not, person who left won't get a say unless it was for an important reason (Tournaments and Leaving out of anger is not acceptable in this case).
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19:59 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
jaaaames said:


Dgen, out of interest, have you actually had any problems with people abusing this rule?


i wouldn't say so.
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20:00 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
jaaaames said:
whocares8x8 said:
i could be 50-0 up and open table when he leaves. there would not be snookers required yet, but it's clearly to the other person's advantage to leave and get a replay...

Ummmm... you'd have to be really really sad....

judging by the attitudes of some people on here, i think it's possible. i just want to prevent it from getting to that stage...
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20:02 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
ill update the rule to the site later, its as fair as i can make it without being too extreme.

hopefully we won't have any incidents next season like they was in last one.
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20:03 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
It should just be a rule that once you leave the frame, the frame is handed to your oppenent. Then there can be no complaints or excuses made,
so once you join a game you can only leave between frames, Also will lay out a bit of discipline.
whocares8x8
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20:04 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
agree with max
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20:11 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
max_is_back said:
It should just be a rule that once you leave the frame, the frame is handed to your oppenent. Then there can be no complaints or excuses made,
so once you join a game you can only leave between frames, Also will lay out a bit of discipline.

That's what I said... about a page ago.
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20:15 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
i have a problem with my connection where when i click on a ball during a game (usually its for break off or first 3 shots i have) where i get disconnected usually the player is ok with that as long as they werent say 30 points ahead or something and we replay.

with this rule would i lose a point even when its 0-0 and no-one has even broken or if im taking first shot after break off?
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20:20 Tue 12 Oct 10 (BST)  [Link]  
virt_slayer said:
i have a problem with my connection where when i click on a ball during a game (usually its for break off or first 3 shots i have) where i get disconnected usually the player is ok with that as long as they werent say 30 points ahead or something and we replay.

with this rule would i lose a point even when its 0-0 and no-one has even broken or if im taking first shot after break off?


"virt_slayer is not responding"

I am sure if you screen shoted that or your oppenent new you left because of connections problems you would just play frame again and it would be clear you left for internet problems.

whocares will argue
"some sad people will turn of there intnernet for an excuse
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