Basically, i want to know what everyone else thinks is better.

Being able to use positional skills to get reds off cushions and split the bunch or just being a potting machine!

I have always said position is more important than being a potter but over the last few weeks i've been playing the bigger tables and even tho i rate my own positional play, i miss shots that i really should be able to pot. And then i see all these other players hitting big breaks, but when i play them...their positional play is terrible but their potting is incredible.

So after recent events like so...for this site im going to say potting!

Cant make big breaks if you cant pot them!

Just want ideas and opinions on what everyone else thinks.

if you have great position then you are making the shots easier for yourself, meaning your potting can be average.

if your position is poor then you really need to be a good potter to be making breaks.

for me position is more important.

Well on orig...i cant pot anything to a middle pocket, i even miss the blue sometimes bcoz i have to either overlap the cursor over the ball or distance it from the blue leaving a slight gap.

So this is excatly the problem...my position is spot on...but my potting is disgustingly bad lol!!

This is the reason i dont hit many cents but have good/decent half ratio's

2 b honest u need 2 b able 2 do both pot and positional play occasionaly u wil run outa position then yur potting pulls u outa trouble but i would say positional play is better than potters as its a great deal harder than just potting in an outa baulk but just my opinion

if your positional play is poor

then your counting on alot of luck

ya know ya can get high breaks using no spin at all, think i had 95 on arcade.

goes to show if ya luck is in ya dont need any positional knowledge.

dez your a top player actually shocked to see this was your thread. just keep at it, original isnt supposed to be easy at the end of the day.

positional play is how you break build, being a gr8 potter wont win you a frame if you need to move a few balls etc.

Positional Play every time. If you could play position you wouldn't need to pull out tough pots all the time.

it is annoying at times though, as derry and i have said to each other regularly, when you lose to a player who just whacks balls in and relies on the unrealistic nature of the site to win. There are so many of these players out there but they will keep winning because of the way the game is. If you dont like this dont play the game i guess, though i share your pain of losing to people who play like this.

It would be interesting to see if, challenged to name the ball they were going to pot after the one they were on, say naming the colour before potting the red, a lot of players could actually succeed on more than 10-20% of occasions.

If anyone would like to try it with me in a 60/90s game on orig just to see how we actually do let me know, i think it would be an interesting challenge .

good shout m8 but the people who generaly whack them arnt as good as u an derry an co

would be interesting to play someone really good like yourself with the rule that you can only pot the ball you named, just to see what breaks we could actually get. obviously splitting the pack is an exception as that relies entirely on luck.

add in a rule where you can only use spin that is realistic too, would be a very interesting challenge

yeah good call. would like to try this .

that is very frustrating for a player like me who tries to play cannons and open reds using my brain instead of pure luck, usually goes against me and the other person blasts the balls around and gets great position.

I am a positioning type of guy. I practice positioning every time I get onto a snooker table. No matter how good you are at potting, if you position yourself into a snooker, there is NO way you can go and pot. Positioning FTW!

This is exactly my argument!

It must be just for this site, in real life potting gets you a 30 break, position gets you a 147.

But i dont understand how i can actually try to maintain position in every shot i take, and somewhere along the lin...i will hit a ball half ball on a cannon...and stick on a red full ball snookered.

Whereas these potting types, never fail to achieve perfect position! lol

It really does make me wonder how they do it, and earlier when Adam said splitting the pack is entirely luck, it isnt...I aswell as other users know where certain reds are going from the smack, ensuring you a next red to play for. But yes a hell of a lot of luck is required in general!

Thats why for this site...i say potting wins...its madness.

sounds like match coming up potters v posiyoining

positioning sry

potting cause doubles are easy so doesnt matter but postion on colours is very handy

i fully agree with this .

id say im half guilty of that but i do try and play postition just im crap at it

I think the combination is key, for example John Higgins. Super safety player, good at potting and great positional player. But i dont think hes anywhere near the potting ability of say, Neil Robertson or Shaun Murphy.

This is why Hendry was a class above the others, becuase he was a super potting with a great positional head.

Steve Davis, I think it was more of his potting and safety play rather than his positional play, tho he was ovbiously not bad.

And Lee, i wasnt like moaning or anything like that, i just wondered what everyone else would say was more important, and giving my opinion bcoz it had changed