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22:27 Fri 10 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
How is it decided which player gets the first shot when the black is re-spotted after the scores are tied?
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22:32 Fri 10 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
its random - has been brought up on countless other occasions hunni - once by myself when i had 3/4 in a row go against me - but after playing for a while now it does even itself out
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22:39 Fri 10 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
yep emily got it right, if you think of a coin, 50% chance it can land on heads, and 50% chance it can land on tails, its just luck of the draw basically.

also welcome to the forums.
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22:55 Fri 10 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
Thanks for the informative answers. Very helpful.

Thanks for the welcome too!
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22:56 Fri 10 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
the respot black should go to the person who didnt have the advantage of the smash break. Seems fairest to me.
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23:05 Fri 10 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
here we go with his daft posts again
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23:13 Fri 10 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
on the contrary j_d,my opinion is sound.
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23:15 Fri 10 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
its a choice to smash break u fool lol
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23:24 Fri 10 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
I think what he meant was the person who breaks, shouldn't then be given the shot if the black is re-spotted.

But anyway, I would like to know how the decision is actually given. I know its random but with coding, its impossible to get a totally random output, the output is always a result of something.

Would be interesting to know how nick has went about creating the random choice.
greatest
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23:25 Fri 10 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
when one player breaks the opponent goes first in respot,that way both players know where they stand before and can model their frame around this
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23:33 Fri 10 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
greatest said:
when one player breaks the opponent goes first in respot,that way both players know where they stand before and can model their frame around this


The whole point of a random selection is that that you can't do this to gain an advantage.
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23:37 Fri 10 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
my idea is perfect for both players,cant see a problem.
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23:49 Fri 10 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
only way you can do this by skill is the carom lagshot but its unfair on people who dont play carom also.

its fine how it is imo
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23:53 Fri 10 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
It's exactly according to the rules. As it should be. There have been previous threads about this...
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00:05 Sat 11 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
Sorry mate. Hadn't realised this had been brought up before as I am a fairly new member.
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00:06 Sat 11 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
jack_pot said:
I think what he meant was the person who breaks, shouldn't then be given the shot if the black is re-spotted.

But anyway, I would like to know how the decision is actually given. I know its random but with coding, its impossible to get a totally random output, the output is always a result of something.

Would be interesting to know how nick has went about creating the random choice.


Simply uses the current time as a seed.
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00:27 Sat 11 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
nick said:
jack_pot said:
I think what he meant was the person who breaks, shouldn't then be given the shot if the black is re-spotted.

But anyway, I would like to know how the decision is actually given. I know its random but with coding, its impossible to get a totally random output, the output is always a result of something.

Would be interesting to know how nick has went about creating the random choice.


Simply uses the current time as a seed.


Ah ok, , thanks.
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00:40 Sat 11 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
greatest said:
when one player breaks the opponent goes first in respot, that way both players know where they stand before and can model their frame around this


Sorry, am I missing something here? I thought the whole idea of snooker was to try and win each frame outright, not play for a draw and subsequent re-spot
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13:08 Sat 11 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
cmurphy said:
greatest said:
when one player breaks the opponent goes first in respot, that way both players know where they stand before and can model their frame around this


Sorry, am I missing something here? I thought the whole idea of snooker was to try and win each frame outright, not play for a draw and subsequent re-spot


unfortunately people cant expect true snooker rules on here,no touching ball,no miss rule and everybody bar me smashes the arcade break.
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13:17 Sat 11 Dec 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
There is no 'true snooker rule' saying you can't smash the break off though...
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