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dgeneratio
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18:07 Wed 19 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
m_wood said:
Sorry boys, have to disgaree...

9pm Carom tourny. Peak Time. 1 Entrant. Says it all, I have played Carom too but that doesnt really matter, it doesnt get the numbers, NEITHER does Random. Scrap

As for Original Marathon, I, Like many others on the site do not join it BECAUSE its too long. When 1 frame lasts on average 15 minutes... you can have possibly 5 frames in the final alone. Its a Tournament that lasts far too long., hence why it doesnt get many numbers Constantly.. It peaked to begin with, but now its old news and needs to go.

by looks of it the server was down for couple hours last night so that may have been affecting things.

random i agree with you but carom needs to stay and so does orig, if any tournaments need lowering its "arcade".
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18:30 Wed 19 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
m_wood said:
baff said:

Furthermore, last night there were 2 ranked tournaments with only 1 entrant.... so, default wins.


Without even looking im going to Bank on them being Random and Carom. They need SCRAPPING. As does Original Marathon. Ive been saying this since 1999

and replace them with what, yet more arcade tournys. BORING!!!!!!...................the 9pm carom tourny gets just as many players as orig tournys do normally (apart from last night offcoarse)
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18:33 Wed 19 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Do think default tournaments shouldn't be given though...
dgeneratio
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18:35 Wed 19 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
what i think should happen is if you get any less than 4 entries in random/carom 8 in reg/orig/arc it should count as a friendly win meaning uncredited but you would still get the rank like a normal tournament.

and if you get enough entries in friendly it should be credited (but still no rank or tournapoints available).
ecwwwe
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18:37 Wed 19 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I've seen people win random tournaments because noone else bothered to enter, if such winners went into a "champions of champions" tournaments it would be unfair to have those winners enter as they really haven't earnt the right to play in it.

Also, say a newbie, and i mean a proper newbie whos never played before, enters and wins then plays the "champions of champions" tourny, draws a pro / virt or even most adepts, they won't stand a chance and it would be easy for those better players to progress in the tournament.

Decent idea but too many bad points imo for it to go ahead.
mich
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19:05 Wed 19 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
what i think should happen is if you get any less than 4 entries in random/carom 8 in reg/orig/arc it should count as a friendly win meaning uncredited but you would still get the rank like a normal tournament.

and if you get enough entries in friendly it should be credited (but still no rank or tournapoints available).


Say Budweiser adam fuzzy and someone not as good enters and wins you saying they shouldn't have it still even though they are beating the best players?
timpark
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19:07 Wed 19 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ecwwwe said:
I've seen people win random tournaments because noone else bothered to enter, if such winners went into a "champions of champions" tournaments it would be unfair to have those winners enter as they really haven't earnt the right to play in it.

Also, say a newbie, and i mean a proper newbie whos never played before, enters and wins then plays the "champions of champions" tourny, draws a pro / virt or even most adepts, they won't stand a chance and it would be easy for those better players to progress in the tournament.

Decent idea but too many bad points imo for it to go ahead.


you got to be in it to win it ,its not the sole entrants fault if no one else joins a tourney...so a default win is fair.

i think the 9pm peak time carom tourney is a bad time to have it..can yous not swap it with the 6-30 original ,as original is the more popular while carom is not a favourite of a lot of people,"i hate it" total waste of time
imo
dgeneratio
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19:15 Wed 19 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
no because you would have 2 carom back to back.

what i would do is put carom earlier around 8, the 6 pm carom to 5, and put orig marathon at 9 pm when it finishes it should be time for the next one (possibly put 10:30 pm orig to 11 pm).

or do as damien said and keep to 1 carom a day.
mich
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19:19 Wed 19 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
So you want a carom tourny at 6 and 1 at 6:30?
ecwwwe
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23:07 Wed 19 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
timpark said:
ecwwwe said:
I've seen people win random tournaments because noone else bothered to enter, if such winners went into a "champions of champions" tournaments it would be unfair to have those winners enter as they really haven't earnt the right to play in it.

Also, say a newbie, and i mean a proper newbie whos never played before, enters and wins then plays the "champions of champions" tourny, draws a pro / virt or even most adepts, they won't stand a chance and it would be easy for those better players to progress in the tournament.

Decent idea but too many bad points imo for it to go ahead.


you got to be in it to win it ,its not the sole entrants fault if no one else joins a tourney...so a default win is fair.

i think the 9pm peak time carom tourney is a bad time to have it..can yous not swap it with the 6-30 original ,as original is the more popular while carom is not a favourite of a lot of people,"i hate it" total waste of time
imo


I understand that if you enter a tourny and noone else enters it a default win is given, and i agree that its fair he or she gets the tourny win, but for a champions of champions tourny, i would just do winners of tournaments that have had a decent amount of players in it.
damee
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23:13 Wed 19 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Orig marathon to stay where it is (possibly a bit later, but no later than 8) and have just one carom a day in my opinion.

Edited at 20:40 Wed 19/10/11 (BST)
dgeneratio
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16:02 Fri 21 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
mich said:
dgeneratio said:
what i think should happen is if you get any less than 4 entries in random/carom 8 in reg/orig/arc it should count as a friendly win meaning uncredited but you would still get the rank like a normal tournament.

and if you get enough entries in friendly it should be credited (but still no rank or tournapoints available).


Say Budweiser adam fuzzy and someone not as good enters and wins you saying they shouldn't have it still even though they are beating the best players?

correct but by your count its 4 and i said any less than 4 or 8 in the others
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01:53 Wed 26 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:


or do as damien said and keep to 1 carom a day.
id say i have been reading for the best part of two years the plea for more than one carom tournament from yourself and many others (mainly you) and now you want to get rid of it again...

unbelievable jeff!!!
damee
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02:01 Wed 26 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
2 carom was always one too many. It just needs to be set at a time where it will attract the most users.
dgeneratio
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02:07 Wed 26 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
caeser said:
dgeneratio said:


or do as damien said and keep to 1 carom a day.
id say i have been reading for the best part of two years the plea for more than one carom tournament from yourself and many others (mainly you) and now you want to get rid of it again...

unbelievable jeff!!!

opinions can change you know, unbelievable geoffrey!
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