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mich
mich
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13:17 Fri 4 May 12 (BST)  [Link]  
I never said you in general though, I wasn't having a go at you as a person, just at the lazy sods you were talking about.

Anyone from the EEA can legally go anywhere within Europe and work in that country, we could go to another country and work their if we wish. Here is a small quote from the Border Agency...

"Czech, Estonian, Hungarian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Polish, Slovakian and Slovenian nationals donot need to obtain our permission before they work in the UK."

Of course they will come here, they don't need our permission, our rates of pay are better than their home countries.
bigkuz
bigkuz
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13:21 Fri 4 May 12 (BST)  [Link]  
and thats why the government has the well f*** em attitude also to minimum wage (sorry for cursing)

its a vicious cycle
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13:22 Fri 4 May 12 (BST)  [Link]  
woah ! hold up.
not quite right actually. as i mentioned earlier germany has different laws m8.
arbeitsalaubnis / permission to work licence

break the law they take it off you and noone is allowed to employ you.
mich
mich
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13:26 Fri 4 May 12 (BST)  [Link]  
Not anywhere did I say even if you break the law you can keep hold of your right to work in the country. Of course if you break the law you should be shipped out, and yeah we should make that a law here, but to be honest with you it would cost the government more money hunting down people who have broke the law and their terms of staying here when they run away somewhere, than it would to just keep them here.

Stupid but true!
bigkuz
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13:27 Fri 4 May 12 (BST)  [Link]  
as long as there is immigrants and EEC people willing to do the jobs on minimum wage and not complain the government will never ever look at trying to entice joe bloogs the trackie wearing alckie, to get off his behind sober up clean up and make a decent life for his 9 kids lol

buts that where the vicious cycle hurts most the Eastern EEC countries workers are hard working will never compain(tbh fair play) because of there own countries bad state so it has a domino effect on our british economy though
mich
mich
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13:34 Fri 4 May 12 (BST)  [Link]  
as long as there is immigrants and EEC people willing to do the jobs on minimum wage and not complain the government will never ever look at trying to entice joe bloogs the trackie wearing alckie, to get off his behind sober up clean up and make a decent life for his 9 kids lol

buts that where the vicious cycle hurts most the Eastern EEC countries workers are hard working will never compain(tbh fair play) because of there own countries bad state so it has a domino effect on our british economy though


Sorry for the personal question but I take it you haven't been on JSA?

They do their best to make sure people are looking for work, set up courses for people to go on to better their qualifacations. Put them on employability courses, have lessons on interviewing.

This all trying to push people into employment and making that person more employable etc..
bigkuz
bigkuz
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13:40 Fri 4 May 12 (BST)  [Link]  
yes bud years ago but they it was if u showed u were trying to find work they left u alone

and showing them then was a case of saying " i looked in the papers but theres nuthin there"
mich
mich
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13:42 Fri 4 May 12 (BST)  [Link]  
Well much has changed now, they have you meet with a personal adviser regularly and put you on courses etc, which is good if you ask me, but as everything there are probably ways around it which people find.
bigkuz
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13:44 Fri 4 May 12 (BST)  [Link]  
lol very true m8 being an alckie or druggie will do it though
mich
mich
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13:48 Fri 4 May 12 (BST)  [Link]  
Not sure if they already do...

Should offer drug addicts and alcoholics rehab and support if they refuse cut their JSA and other financial support until they take their course.

Only downside is it would probably cause more crime, but would turn around a lot of people who want to turn their lives around.
bigkuz
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13:48 Fri 4 May 12 (BST)  [Link]  
which i am neither


anyways gtg got work to do laters folks
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13:50 Fri 4 May 12 (BST)  [Link]  
time for a confession.
in the 80s i used to get my boss to drop me off to sign on lol
whocares8x8
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14:33 Fri 4 May 12 (BST)  [Link]  
woah ! hold up.
not quite right actually. as i mentioned earlier germany has different laws m8.
arbeitsalaubnis / permission to work licence

break the law they take it off you and noone is allowed to employ you.
The work permit laws in Germany have changed since the increasing integration of the EU. As soon as an EU citizen comes to Germany and registers, he automatically gets a license to work. That's part of the EU- everyone has the right to work everywhere in the EU.
Regarding what was said earlier about Germany not giving any benefits to immigrants- sure they do!
As soon as you get a job, you are automatically eligible for the government health insurance system. etc, etc.

The EU laws have been fully implemented here, just like in any other country that has signed the treaties.
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