To illustrate what adam is saying:

Scenario is both fixtures are tied.

Davey's suggestion:

Team A (26) vs (26) Team B (all games completed, +5 for each)
Team C (26) vs (26) Team D (defaults, -5 for each)

Standings:
Team A - 31 points
Team B - 31 points
Team C - 21 points
Team D - 21 points

The way we have it currently:

Team A (26) vs (26) Team B (all games completed, +10 for each)
Team C (26) vs (26) Team D (defaults, 0 for each)

Standings:
Team A - 36 points
Team B - 36 points
Team C - 26 points
Team D - 26 points

See, it makes no difference.

My brain hurts trying to explain it.lol

you lot are confusing me

Doesn't matter when every clan plays every clan . This is last season's league table if you use that system:

Funky Snooker Elite.....269.......180......89.......-15.......165
Vikings..........................270.......148.....122......15.......163
Dollars & Cents............269.......144.....125.......15......159
Snooker Legends.........270.......128.....142.......5........133
Black Ballers.................270......105.....165.......15.......120
Allstarz..........................270......104.....166.......-5.........99

Look, FSE still won by 2 points .

with what davey said (+5 for complete, -5 for incomplete)

5 clans in the league.

allstarz complete all fixtures games +25

ballers fail complete any -25

That table was produced using davey's system. Results are exactly the same, just the scores are lower.

Again, that's the same thing as suggesting the completion bonus should be increased to 13 points.

Currently, we're thinking about lowering it to 7 points for next season.

There are very few defaults in the league. So the default bonus can be cut down a bit to see if defaults will remain the same.

In theory, the ideal way would be that a completion bonus is not necessary and only the scores count. But we've seen from the past that this is not the case.

So we have to find a way to balance the need for low defaults with the need to keep the bonuses from being too important.

Edited at 23:59 Wed 16/05/12 (BST)

Lol seb as made it clear now. He put it in idiot form. Cheers.

(confused smiley) we stilll need one of these.

Picked up the maths quick there seb .

my head hurts

You're using a calculator adam; I'm doing this all in my head

Calculator??? pffft. I do maths with letters these days, they havn't invented calculators that can do that .

To take a break from completion bonus discussions, can you please give me opinions on the following.

I've noticed we currently have conflicting rules about transfers:




Should transfers be allowed during and after the preseason friendlies or should transfers only be allowed before the preseason friendlies start?

Just to finish this topic off, the completion bonus in cases of defaults was covered by rule 4.2
http://funkysnookerclanleague.weebly.com/rules.html

I feel transfers should be allowed during but stop on the same deadline as the freindlies do. Gives teams time to try do some final signings if they didnt like how the freindlies went.

Since there is a break of a few days between the end of pre-season friendlies and the beginning of the first league fixture, this would mean transfers are allowed anytime before the first league fixtures come out.

The two options are:

1. Transfers are allowed only until the start of the pre-season friendlies.

2. Transfers are allowed until the start of the first league fixture.

I'm guessing davey was for option 2 right?

option 2 but those who don't make it should be eligible to transfer as that team isn't in the main league

Yes, that's a given. Players of a clan that doesn't make through the preseason friendlies are considered free agents.

To add- so far we've allowed transfers throughout the pre-season friendlies until the first fixture stars.
I just noticed the conflicting rules and know that there are some arguments for the other side as well.

Yes seb option 2.

could do both, stop transfers once friendlies start and IF any don't make it then they can switch anyway due to being free agents