thank you mate for those that cant speak geordie

First, it is without doubt unfair on people who don't use zoom. Gaining a better win rate and tournament wins came at the expense on other users who weren't tech savvy enough, used a different browser or simply weren't into gaining unfair advantage.

As mentioned above, it's now a level playing field. I prefer this even if it forces a few people to leave rather than prove that they still can compete. I regret not responding to this issue sooner.

Secondly zoom hasn't even been removed. Anyone can still use it! The only difference is you can't scroll to remove the advert. Therefore the only people affected by this change are those that removed the advert.

I don't intend to re-enable scroll bars under any circumstance, there simply should be no need for them.

Thirdly, if this kills original snooker so be it - it would show it is a flawed format. Currently it accounts for only 8% of snooker games. A format halfway between the current two might be a better table.

Edited at 21:09 Sun 17/08/08 (BST)

I'd like to see a halfway format if i do say so myself

A table between the two would be great because you can enjoy the freedom of space of table without the impossible nature of potting on original

if there was a table between the two what sort of table would we be looking at nick, any ideas ?

should create a new thread because will get a lot of feedback.

Whilst i understand the appeal of a midway table, I am curious to see the actual longer term effect of the recent updates, especially the introduction of the widescreen format.

At least half of new diplays are widescreen and are usually of higher resolution, thus reducing the size of the chat area and adverts/upper game info area and leaving even more space for the game.

Given that that new format gives a bigger table by default may actually attract more players, in the same way using zoom attracted the few who knew about it.

Funkysnooker is the only online game i know of that lets you play using the maximum area possible on your screen. Seems a shame not to take full advantage of that.

Edited at 21:37 Sun 17/08/08 (BST)

Ok this may sound a stupid point but I don't have any adverts in my game window :S

No point in arguing about something that will never happen .

I suppose we will all have too get used to it, ill practice a few times when i sign in and see how it goes.

Spinner, I know a lot of members used zoom but there was no rule against it, if there was a rule i simply wouldn't of used it.

And it sounds great creating a table inbetween both game types, a trial will do nicely .

Edit: Yes spinner, every shot i took i had to scroll, hence why my games were always 40 seconds lol.

Edited at 22:10 Sun 17/08/08 (BST)

Cambo, that is not geordie! I'm a geordie and don't know how you can say it is! What you said doesn't include any geordie words, it's just normal words in text speak

On topic again, I'm sure I said this earlier in the thread, but what people have to realise is it wasn't done to make the game 'fair' or to stop people using zoom. It was put in as otherwise Nick may stop getting revenue from adverts for the upkeep of the website.

Edited at 22:24 Sun 17/08/08 (BST)

Thats what i keep sayin mate!

What about people with bigger screens? Isn't that unfair aswell?

Also are you saying orig snooker might go?

better not, i want a half on original before it goes anywhere. Lindsell went because of zoom problems on original and because of this new update. miss you lindsell

I certainly hope this does not kill off original snooker as it is by far the best game going. Would the 'halfway' be an addition to or a replacement of original snooker? I hope it is the former, but I appreciate this is a personal preference. I can't believe the negativity to the updates at the moment but I'm sure it will pass. Hope you don't get too disheartened Nick at the reaction to all the great work you've put in. I'm sure that the majority like myself appreciate what you have done and see 'the bigger picture'.

I agree buddytobud. Reading this thread i think it has given a very skewed view of the real opinions of players. There are many groups of friends who plqay this game outside of those who tend to frequent the forum side, i think i fit into that category. I have been here almost 3 years and really enjoy he community side, to the extent i dont actually play that much anymore, or didnt!

I also fit the catagory of players who are now going to play original more often since the table is bigger and easier to see. I was just gettin into orig before and then people started talking about zoom and i thought it very unfair on the people who wanted to play fairly.

It is good to see all on the same level now, that has to be good for the game on the whole.

more people will play now because you dont have a few people gaining an unfair advantage and driving others like myself away.

i thought you lot were good at original. lmao.

Im thinking there is some kind of wind up going on here- all the people who were meant to be amazing at original cant play because they cant zoom in. It just sounds a little bit daft. I have never used zoom on snooker and i havent zoomed on pool in a long time either.

As for the update- i didnt like it at first.
In fact i was probably the fiercest critic on pool when it came out.
But fair play to nick, he was right. I adapted after a few days and im more than used to it now.

I kept missing my break too mike cos im waiting for it to say it in the chat area. you get used to it after a while lol.
i think now the playing field is more level you might see some new names near the top of snooker. if it is scrapped id be disappointed as its the closest thing we have to the old uspro pool games.
i like playing it for a challenge occasionally and im not terrible at it! lol
Guess we wont see any more 147s now you cant zoom though

I've never used zoom, so i dont see any difference?

Dont get rid of orig, its rocks, its way better than arcade.

As for the potting i managed to win 37 tourneys without Zoom, so it cant be that hard. If anything its even better now were all on an equal playing field.

Edited at 16:21 Wed 20/08/08 (BST)