Am afraid to say nick i think Arcade is now the worst game out of Original and Regular, the reasons i say this is look at the spin, it doesn't suit the Arcade table whatsoever, it's like having a Extra large t-shirt on a 6month old baby. What I'm trying to say is the Regular and Original tables are big so you can put more power in you're shots to actually get the pot/positions you want! How about increasing the power for Arcade to more in between with the previous and current? The table is far too small for the current spin whats in place now!

I hope it's not just me who's suffering and a lot more people voice their opinions. Thanks.

I'm going to agree with ste on this, personally the title arcade has never been a realistic representation of any game type under the title. Arcade tennis, football, golf just to name a few all had their own crazy tweaks.

However it's fully understandable nick wants the best and most realistic site on the web to the highest extent it could be but in most games have their fun tweaks to them and having the old spin back onto arcade only would be funkysnookers edition to the arcade type of gaming.

Now the against argument is going to be most people have adjusted why can't you? I'm sure I could adjust as could ste but the point of this thread is the fun which was once paramount on arcade has quietened so to speak, adding the old spin would boost the fun in arcade.

My main point was that the table is far to small for that kind of spin for Arcade, i was watching Mike play Original and i even said too him the spin suits it so much and thats the best thing about Original now so well done for that nick Also with Regular it suits that perfectly also, it's just Arcade when you screw back or put top on it you can't control it as much as you can with the other game types because there isn't as much room. It's a lot of changes to Arcade so fast i mean the rankings also, when i win a game and i see how many points i get i think, "that 7 minute game for one point:S" that could also be the put off. I personally just have no time for Arcade no more due to it's major change. Look at the Tournament winners for example i don't no hardly any of them, i think thats due to this update also. I agree with Mike the fun factor what once was with Arcade has gone.

Edited at 15:30 Tue 13/01/09 (GMT)

What your basically saying there ste is that arcade is harder with the new spin. What's the matter with that?

Using your stats, it just shows how someone can get really good on arcade and get so many maximums on it no problem. The spin is a new challenge, i mean come on it can't be that much different though if i hit a max with the new spin on it .

However, i do agree with both of you to the extent that it is called arcade, and has that name for a reason. If the spin was to be put back, i personally would not see any problem as it does give the game a more of an 'arcade' feel to it.

So im split down the middle on this.

100% agree you can hit the ball far too hard

There are a few reasons why I haven't enjoyed playing arcade recently.

1) Introduction of regular - giving me a realistic chance of getting a higher break than 107 (but that is no fault of arcade)

2) The new spin. I used to like playing soft shots with loads of spin, now I have to hit it harder, and with the lack of space on the table, certain shots are made almost impossible, and you lose position on a seemingly simple positional shot.

3) - and probably due to a combination of the two, no top, top players seem to play it anymore - as Ste said, look at the recent tournie winners.


Having said that, I am happier with the site than what I have been in a long time, the introduction of regular has pretty much sealed that.

To put things into perspective, there is still far more games of arcade beng played than regular, so to me it isn't hitting the wall, all that is happening is it is becoming less popular with the very good players, but still popular with everybody else. This was the case before the introduction of regular and the new spin, everybody was looking for a new challenge, and turned to original.


So to sum up, I myself prefer regular than arcade, but most members are still enjoying arcade, and will continue to do so. If that is because of, or despite the introduction of new spin I don't know though.

Edited at 16:32 Tue 13/01/09 (GMT)

It's not just harder it's getting increasingly frustrating! I just can't get used to the spin on Arcade but with original and Regular I'm fine with it. Just to note this is my personal voiced opinion and if it's just me who is suffering then i think it should stay the same. But it rules me out of competing at the highest level again.

Edited at 16:33 Tue 13/01/09 (GMT)

Who ever has made a max with the current spin on Arcade deserves a massive pat on the back cause for me personally i think it's very very hard and involves a lot more luck than skill positional wise due to the spin.

Well done Damee, shocked me on that one. Had to even check you're recent breaks

yees i agree tables too fast..not as enjoyable.if its not broke why attampt fixing it?

Also if this was to happen would killer and carom also change ?

Thats the thing, only a few months ago people (mainly top players obviously) were complaining that hitting 107's was too easy.

So this seems to have fixed that, whilst clearly not making it impossible.

From my personal viewpoint, I never "got" arcade right from the start. I always felt there was a lack of control. However now, with the new spin, I am enjoying it as much as original, however that is purely a personal opinion.

The facts are that just as many people aer playing arcade as before, but as Mike said above, many older players have moved on to the new challenges of regular an original.

With the amount of recent additins and improvements, only time will tell. So i suggest re-visiting this thread in January 2010 to see if you still feel the same

107's we're too easy before the update and are now too hard (for some people) thats why the question comes in can we have an in between spin like i said before with the previous and current?

As for you're question Mike, it should change with killer if it was to change with Arcade. As for Carom that should keep the relistic spin as that is actually a more serious game.


Good points The_kop and Spinner also.

Ano am full of em

If it was to change, then killer would have to change with it probably, as for carom, that should probs stay the same.

That comment really annoys me (stronger words would be used if they could). As does Ste's regarding tourny winners being unheard of.

Who are you, or anyone for that point, to say players are top or not? I've played Aracade for a long time and continue to do so and would consider myself to be a decent player, as I would quite a few of the guys I play on a regular basis.

What's wrong with new players winning tournaments? Makes the game more competitive and maybe shows those "top" players they need to practice the new game more if they want to keep winning.

Yeah it took me a while to get used to the spin and I didn't like it in the first place. Its certainly a lot harder to get big breaks now but I see that as a challenge.

What do you guys want - a game where you cannot be beaten or one where anyone can win on their day? I know which I prefer and the recent changes have certainly gone some way to doing that.

Rather than speak about other players in a derogatory manner, maybe you guys should play the game a bit more if you want to get back to your old standard. Hell the game needs more top players!

To add on to the post above - many times I've seen you all say that Nick won't change something for the minority.

Yet you expect him to here. It is obvious that it is the minority who aren't happy with it, since this is really the first thread outlining why it is bad. And the only point you've managed to bring up is that its harder to make big breaks.

Thats the same for everyone isn't it? So why is it a select few have a problem with it? Wasn't it hard to make big breaks when you started? Yet to make big breaks then meant actually learning the angles as well as the spin.

You already know the angles now, meaning spin should fall into place easily.



I disagree. Before the update, you learnt the spin to get the breaks. Now, because you don't know how to use the spin completely to your advantage, it is down to luck. Where is the logic in that? As you did before the update, you learn the spin to get the breaks. Simple as.



I couldn't agree more

By top players he meant players from the old days, mr_107 bell_boy, jay_afc, curtisorren etc it was in no way a dig so to speak at the current top players.

I think thats exactly why its offensive. If your not from the "old days" you can't be a top player - does that sound like a logical argument to you?

Its time people step away from that them and us kind of attitude. Funkysnooker is a site that's developing all the time and new players are joining on a daily basis. Those new players are joining the Funkysnooker community and they should be welcomed into it.

Some of the comments above are nothing more than someone saying "i'm better than you because i've been here longer".

No offence to anyone but the "top" players, ste, lyle, and kai moved to original before regular was introduced, so that has nothing to do with the new spin. (well ste moved back but you know what i mean)



Exactly, just because you haven't heard of them does not mean you are a good player. Like tinotoon, ive heard your username a couple of times but nothing like others, yet you are a really good player and top of the rankings. Any player can come along at any time and 'upset' the flow but that's the fun in it, more people challenging you on the game.



Same again, perfectly right with that comment, its fun that way when you can get beaten by anyone. Gets boring if you just win every match easily any time. Play original now and the standard is a lot higher than what it was a couple of month ago.

And the changes are doing no harm to the game, just improving it. Unless people want changes to stop which im sure no one wants then whats the problem?



That in bold is a load of rubbish. As you said its harder so isn't it down to more skill and less luck? Sorry ste but there you are contradicting your self.

Well it's my opinion. Sorry if it offends you...

I wasn't being derogatory, I didn't say, tinotoon, your rubbish. I just said the top players moved on.

Just because you didn't name an individual player doesn't mean you weren't being derogatory. I would suggest that saying no top players play Arcade is being derogatory to all Arcade players.