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20:40 Wed 1 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
The problem is how do you prove that someone else was playing the game? Unless there is a glaring skill difference (which there wasn't in this case), there is no way to prove anything without an admission.
20:42 Wed 1 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
yeah i know but if it really did happen then well i dread to think about it.
i hope it is a false accusation so i can update this game.
i hope it is a false accusation so i can update this game.
20:59 Wed 1 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
verdict not guilty, so we dont really need the rule now.
13:39 Mon 13 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
next season i am going to do golden cue based on points per game rather than top scorers or win percentage and cup will be included next season in race for golden cue.
as for bonus league table im debating if to add that to cup next season also.
what you think?
as for bonus league table im debating if to add that to cup next season also.
what you think?
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14:43 Mon 13 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
Detracts from the main idea of the Cup being Match play if you go around giving bonus points for breaks.
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14:44 Mon 13 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
only on bonus league table not in actual fixture moons
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14:47 Mon 13 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
Makes no difference my opinion still the same.
Also clans don't all play the same amuont on games.
Personally, I see no point in bonuses in the cup. The aim is to win and make sure your not knocked out. This was the idea behind the format i made for the cup. and the new format we see next season.
Also clans don't all play the same amuont on games.
Personally, I see no point in bonuses in the cup. The aim is to win and make sure your not knocked out. This was the idea behind the format i made for the cup. and the new format we see next season.
14:54 Mon 13 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
yeah was just an idea, the golden cue one is one i mainly wanted to talk about.
in theory the more games you play the more you have to work to try and get the points per game higher (would still be a minimum of 3 games like this time) but could make it 4 if needed but no more than 4.
here is the points per game table so far (only eligible people so far)
1st mooney and seb with 5 points per game average
3rd nicko with 4.8 points per game average
4th lee with 4.7 points per game average
5th bud and jack with 4.3 points per game average
and so on.
there are a couple on 6 points per game average but they only played 1 or 2 games so they don't count.
in theory the more games you play the more you have to work to try and get the points per game higher (would still be a minimum of 3 games like this time) but could make it 4 if needed but no more than 4.
here is the points per game table so far (only eligible people so far)
1st mooney and seb with 5 points per game average
3rd nicko with 4.8 points per game average
4th lee with 4.7 points per game average
5th bud and jack with 4.3 points per game average
and so on.
there are a couple on 6 points per game average but they only played 1 or 2 games so they don't count.
12:26 Tue 14 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
ive also been thinking, instead of doing 1 v 1, 2 v 2 in each teamlist, when i do draw how about i do it randomly.
so say seb put
orig
dgen
seb
and moons put
orig
lee
chase
instead of dgen vs lee
seb vs chase
it could be done random so it could be any combination in that game type.
example for cup
instead of...
dgen vs nicko
seb vs chase
adam vs moons
dest vs fuzzy
alex vs bud
it could be
seb vs bud
moons vs dest
alex vs fuzzy
adam vs nicko
dgen vs chase
what you think?
so say seb put
orig
dgen
seb
and moons put
orig
lee
chase
instead of dgen vs lee
seb vs chase
it could be done random so it could be any combination in that game type.
example for cup
instead of...
dgen vs nicko
seb vs chase
adam vs moons
dest vs fuzzy
alex vs bud
it could be
seb vs bud
moons vs dest
alex vs fuzzy
adam vs nicko
dgen vs chase
what you think?
08:01 Wed 15 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
for the golden cue, i say yes to points per game. keep it at 3 games minimum to be eligible since there are only 5 fixtures total (unless poolers or other clans join for next season, in that case raise it to 4).
i would not include cup breaks/runs in bonus league table. not because it would damage the cup, but different teams play different amount of games with cup (those who progress play more obviously). so the top of the breaks table would probably be those who got farthest in the cup.
i would not include cup breaks/runs in bonus league table. not because it would damage the cup, but different teams play different amount of games with cup (those who progress play more obviously). so the top of the breaks table would probably be those who got farthest in the cup.
13:55 Wed 15 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
yeah true, what about randoming fixtures?
14:00 Wed 15 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
bumping this up too.
dgeneratio said:
a new rule i may bring in, but this is strictly for new clans to prove reliability instead of the old profile checks.
How about new Clans will play a friendly with another reliable clan with the clan league rules of course so teamlists would be needed there.
could start this 2 or 3 weeks before the offical season begins so it gives league runners time to make changes to the website.
clans i know are reliable would be accepted by default like Dollars and Cents, The Untouchables, Thunder Hawxs, Punishers, All Starz etc.
Clans who i think are struggling at the time would have to go through the friendly process.
might just take out profile checks altogether as its team reliability to play games i am looking for instead of players.
The Clan League Champions and the Cup Champions would be accepted into the league by default.
what you think of this?
How about new Clans will play a friendly with another reliable clan with the clan league rules of course so teamlists would be needed there.
could start this 2 or 3 weeks before the offical season begins so it gives league runners time to make changes to the website.
clans i know are reliable would be accepted by default like Dollars and Cents, The Untouchables, Thunder Hawxs, Punishers, All Starz etc.
Clans who i think are struggling at the time would have to go through the friendly process.
might just take out profile checks altogether as its team reliability to play games i am looking for instead of players.
The Clan League Champions and the Cup Champions would be accepted into the league by default.
what you think of this?
bumping this up too.
14:39 Wed 22 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
For next season:
Defaulted Results will not count towards golden cue (points per game) in league or cup
Cup games will count to golden cue next season (points per game), however if it gets to point where a clan has won, no matter what defaults are they don't need to be done.
Defaulted Results will not count towards golden cue (points per game) in league or cup
Cup games will count to golden cue next season (points per game), however if it gets to point where a clan has won, no matter what defaults are they don't need to be done.
14:41 Wed 22 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
Discussion:
We want to know your thoughts about this idea...
Clans which may be struggling, may loan players from other clans providing they let me know and the rival clans captain agree, at least until the captain who wants to loan can get some more players in, this will stop clans folding.
We want to know your thoughts about this idea...
Clans which may be struggling, may loan players from other clans providing they let me know and the rival clans captain agree, at least until the captain who wants to loan can get some more players in, this will stop clans folding.
14:45 Wed 22 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
sounds decent.
clans that are about to fold will not be contending for the league title anyway, so it wont help them to a win.
and if they go under anyway, all results are scrapped so no damage done.
clans that are about to fold will not be contending for the league title anyway, so it wont help them to a win.
and if they go under anyway, all results are scrapped so no damage done.
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14:52 Wed 22 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
The main interest here is to keep as many clans going as possible. So i think the League should have a system of atleast trying to help a clan that looks like it might go under.
Just a thing i'd like to add.
- A loaned player Can't player against their clan.
- These are emergencies only
- League runners must agree on the loaning (basically whether it is emergency)
Thats it for now.
Just a thing i'd like to add.
- A loaned player Can't player against their clan.
- These are emergencies only
- League runners must agree on the loaning (basically whether it is emergency)
Thats it for now.
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14:56 Wed 22 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
I like the sound of this idea !
I think it'll definately make a difference to all the clans who haven't being going that long and who are still trying to build a good standing within the league.
I know from personal experience that trying to get a team assembled which has 100% reliable players is the hardest thing to do. Any measures which will help us captains has got my backing.
Only thing i'd add to this is that any loan should be for a set period (i.e. minimum 2 weeks, max 4 weeks). This would allow captains enough time to draft in replacement players. I think shorter periods for loans wouldn't work otherwise.
Catch u soon.
dgeneratio said:
Discussion:
We want to know your thoughts about this idea...
Clans which may be struggling, may loan players from other clans providing they let me know and the rival clans captain agree, at least until the captain who wants to loan can get some more players in, this will stop clans folding.
We want to know your thoughts about this idea...
Clans which may be struggling, may loan players from other clans providing they let me know and the rival clans captain agree, at least until the captain who wants to loan can get some more players in, this will stop clans folding.
I like the sound of this idea !
I think it'll definately make a difference to all the clans who haven't being going that long and who are still trying to build a good standing within the league.
I know from personal experience that trying to get a team assembled which has 100% reliable players is the hardest thing to do. Any measures which will help us captains has got my backing.
Only thing i'd add to this is that any loan should be for a set period (i.e. minimum 2 weeks, max 4 weeks). This would allow captains enough time to draft in replacement players. I think shorter periods for loans wouldn't work otherwise.
Catch u soon.
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15:07 Wed 22 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
Maybe it could be upto the captain wether for to play against them.
mooney said:
The main interest here is to keep as many clans going as possible. So i think the League should have a system of atleast trying to help a clan that looks like it might go under.
Just a thing i'd like to add.
- A loaned player Can't player against their clan.
- These are emergencies only
- League runners must agree on the loaning (basically whether it is emergency).
Just a thing i'd like to add.
- A loaned player Can't player against their clan.
- These are emergencies only
- League runners must agree on the loaning (basically whether it is emergency).
Maybe it could be upto the captain wether for to play against them.
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15:11 Wed 22 Dec 10 (GMT) [Link]
There could be a loan list captains could put players down for loan and they still have to keep orig clan badge up and captain can terminate the loan at any time too
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