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whocares8x8
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01:11 Mon 10 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Just a small side note on golden cue. I think we should take out the win % table, since it's fairly meaningless since there should be several people at the end of the season with 100% and loads of others tied for lower places too... if we want to keep the stat itself, we could include it on one of the other tables.
Just keep points per game and total points (i think that's how they have it on pool too).
dgeneratio
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01:22 Mon 10 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
yeah they do.

was only put their so people can look how their doing, not as a golden cue stat
whocares8x8
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01:23 Mon 10 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
ah right ok. yeah for next season we can compress into 2 tables? just add a column to one of the other tables.
im off mate, see you
dgeneratio
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01:24 Mon 10 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
cya mate

sure if thats what you want
whocares8x8
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15:55 Mon 10 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Since points per game doesn't work we could do some sort of frame win %, the percentage of frames won. So if you go 4:2 in league and you win 3:2 in cup then you have 7 wins in 11 frames (63.6%).
This would allow both cup and league games to be counted. It would also allow us to include incomplete games that went to default. For example, if you were leading 2:0 and it goes to default, we can include the 2 games played and won in the golden cue stats.

The alternative is to just not include cup games in stats like this year...
dgeneratio
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15:59 Mon 10 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
i got an idea.

points per game (League only, defaults don't count)

get rid of most frames won with seb's idea above.

what you think?
whocares8x8
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19:43 Mon 10 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
That's doable too.
So one table league only and one table with cup.
The cup table will also show the total frames won anyway, and we can include the old win % stat that we had this year in a column.

Alternatively, get rid of points per frame (since it only shows league), just do total frames and the stuff i described in my last post. I don't mind either way.
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04:24 Sun 16 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
Discussion:

We want to know your thoughts about this idea...

Clans which may be struggling, may loan players from other clans providing they let me know and the rival clans captain agree, at least until the captain who wants to loan can get some more players in, this will stop clans folding.


bring this back up again is this likely to happen?
whocares8x8
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05:01 Sun 16 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
i think the idea is in place. it is really only for absolute emergencies though.
dgeneratio
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12:45 Sun 16 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
yeah im not sure if i put it in rules or not but i will do later today.
whocares8x8
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15:11 Tue 25 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
By the way, I'm projecting 8-9 clans for next season: D&C, UT, Allstarz, Hawx, Chaos, Poolers, Globe, Punishers, Funky 147 (?).
2 divisions like we talked about before surely?
This is probably a bit early, since all the new clans have to pass pre-season friendlies first to see if they can get games played.
But I would say anything over 7 clans is good for 2 divisions (double round robin).
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15:23 Tue 25 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
8-9 is the hell of a number.

8-9 teams is a long season for 1 League

But too little for 2 IMO
whocares8x8
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16:26 Tue 25 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
well, if you have 2 groups of 4: double round robin = 6 fixtures each.
add cup games and we have what we had this season
dgeneratio
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18:23 Tue 25 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
if 2 divisions each clan plays each other twice to make up for 1 big league.

thats right seb providing they can pass pre season friendlies.
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11:37 Wed 26 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Am I the only one that sees a lack of competition in a group of 4?


Also, do ALL clans need pre seasn friendlys?
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12:25 Wed 26 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
everyone except league and cup champions mate but if league and cup champions want to play them then its fine even though they will automatically go through.

i don't mind if its 1 division or 2 but when i initially thought of 2 divisions i thought it would give the other clans a chance to win something rather than Dollars and Cents or Untouchables winning all the time.

your call
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12:45 Wed 26 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
IMO 4 teams doesn't even make it a league.

Don't forget also theres the Plate for clans who lose their first match in the Cup.
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13:05 Wed 26 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
hmm maybe the plate covers that then, completely forgot about that
whocares8x8
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13:58 Wed 26 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
I think both 1 division and 2 divisions would work. Let's just assume 8 clans for a minute.
2 divisions of 4 would mean 6 league fixtures + 1-3 cup games. That means 9 weeks (if we have 1 week for cup fixtures) or 12 weeks (if we have 2 weeks for cup fixtures).
1 division of 8 means 7 league fixtures + 1-3 cup games. That's 11/14 weeks.
I think both are ok. However with 9 teams, I think we would be stretching it a little for 1 division...
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14:00 Wed 26 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
lets get pre season friendlies out of way 1st then we have a rough idea which league to go for
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