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whocares8x8
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01:56 Sat 30 Apr 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Sorry for the wait, mate.
First of all, thanks for your post earlier.
I think the majority of captains and vice-captains feel that Punishers should be removed from the remainder of the clan league season. This means that the previous results will be wiped.
However (with permission of mooney and dgeneratio), I would suggest that you can still play your cup/plate games. They don't influence any other clans, so if the games get played- great. If they don't get played- Punishers will probably lose out on defaults anyway. So feel free to play those games! If not, let us know and that's not a problem.
Thanks for your effort and I certainly hope you can rebuild for next season.
whocares8x8
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01:57 Sat 30 Apr 11 (BST)  [Link]  
This also removes the need for an extension. Games ended yesterday and defaults will go ahead as planned. Please send messages for defaults to dgeneratio.
Cup games have been released- please check the Cup thread.
dgeneratio
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12:03 Sat 30 Apr 11 (BST)  [Link]  
thats no problem by me, plus if they lose they will go to playoffs
dgeneratio
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12:17 Sat 30 Apr 11 (BST)  [Link]  
and also cup doesn't affect league either
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16:28 Sat 30 Apr 11 (BST)  [Link]  
whocares8x8 said:
10 captains / vice captains have posted or messaged me back so far. Several of them won't because they haven't been online in a while.
So far we have 8 saying Punishers should be removed for the rest of the season, with 3 (incl. mooney) saying that Punishers should stay. We'll wait to see if there is more discussion.

Nothing yet from:
chubby_brown
emily
nicko (mooney speaks for him lol)
zac

Edited at 17:55 Fri 29/04/11 (BST)

spoke to chubs the other day, he's of the same opinion as me !

Cheers
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01:09 Sun 1 May 11 (BST)  [Link]  
has simon made a comment on this seb
whocares8x8
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01:14 Sun 1 May 11 (BST)  [Link]  
He said keep punishers in (messaged me)
whocares8x8
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01:17 Sun 1 May 11 (BST)  [Link]  
It was zac, simon, sarah, and mooney for keeping Punishers
crazy_dave
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03:49 Sun 1 May 11 (BST)  [Link]  
As said before kick us out for now to keep the league running smooth! I will help build up a new team with Greg etc when they come on, we will play in the cup games and have some internal games to prove we have a team yet again! Us missing a few games to make it easy for the league wont kill us!
whocares8x8
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14:13 Sun 1 May 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Thanks for understanding!
The tables have been updated. The cup results will still be registered (for individual league results), they just don't show right now, because you have to play a minimum number of frames to be in the table.
Good luck!
sarahh
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01:21 Sat 7 May 11 (BST)  [Link]  
why are clans so big ? . like at the moment can have a maximum of 17 .

if we had like 8 in a clan , there be alot more clans and more reliable too , less defaults cause there be less games

could play 1 game of each game type and have 3 subs
dgeneratio
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01:29 Sat 7 May 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ive had a think for a while really, and i still prefer the old way of clans (10 players, 3 subs) but things have changed and clans now have a lot more numbers in them now.
whocares8x8
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01:31 Sat 7 May 11 (BST)  [Link]  
An idea to think about, but it would require changing of all clans from the ground up. Not sure if people want to leave their clans?
Thoughts?
whocares8x8
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01:32 Sat 7 May 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I also think 17 is too big. For 9 fixtures, that's almost a sub for every player. Too much in my eyes. However, despite the amount of subs, there are still many defaults.
Captains must keep track of how many of their players are actually active and reliable...
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01:35 Sat 7 May 11 (BST)  [Link]  
im sure it would work out if we gave the cup/league a rest untill ppl sort there clans/players out.

clans need to be smaller for all the things sarah stated.

plus we could then make a division 1+2 maybe
whocares8x8
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01:40 Sat 7 May 11 (BST)  [Link]  
we would have to make at least 2 divisions.
I'm not sure people will voluntarily leave their clans though
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01:46 Sat 7 May 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Fewer members in clans = more clans. More clans means it's harder to manage. More likelyhood of clans folding, greater numbers in clans means more reliable in the short term and long term as they have a greater reserve substitutes.

I think at the minute the problem is poorly captained clans. Captains not being reliable themselves or those who want to change their team every 2 minutes, I'm sure you know who I'm talking about...
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02:37 Sat 7 May 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I think the League needs to be reconsidered, and restructured. Clans are massive now (particulary some off the new ones i see) where i've seen a captain actually post something like 'we need 20 players'

How they come to that judgement when the League max is 15 (why it was extented to 17 after tranfer i don't know)

Personally, think transfer should be scapped mid-season. Should be encouraging players to stay with their clans. Nothing more annoying for the runners I presume for a mass exodus and thus, a folded clan.

15 is most definitelty enough for a clan, considering 18 games are given a time (2 fixtures of 9)

However, I do believe the formats for matches should stay the same.

Also think the League
dgeneratio
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02:43 Sat 7 May 11 (BST)  [Link]  
agreed dunno about transfer though.
whocares8x8
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03:06 Sat 7 May 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I agree with 15 max. No need for 17.
Transfer window i still like. That way, players having trouble with captains or something still have a chance to join other clans. The reason for clans folding hasn't been a mass exodus, it's been inactive players.
I like the format very much as it is now. I don't know whether we can reconsider the league much. I mean, what can we change? I like the cup running parallel and I think the scheduling has worked out well.
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