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14:12 Sun 8 May 11 (BST) [Link]
new clans always start in division 2, but even before then all clans would have to pass the pre season friendlies.
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14:13 Sun 8 May 11 (BST) [Link]
1. It will make the league shorter
2. THen new teams will not get hammered in there 1st season
3. Clan will get the chance to go up or down so adds a little something.
2. THen new teams will not get hammered in there 1st season
3. Clan will get the chance to go up or down so adds a little something.
14:13 Sun 8 May 11 (BST) [Link]
It will be a miracle if all the new clans make it to the next season...
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14:13 Sun 8 May 11 (BST) [Link]
1. It will make the league shorter
2. THen new teams will not get hammered in there 1st season
3. Clan will get the chance to go up or down so adds a little something.
2. THen new teams will not get hammered in there 1st season
3. Clan will get the chance to go up or down so adds a little something.
14:14 Sun 8 May 11 (BST) [Link]
I agree with 2 divisions if we have enough (stable!!) clans. Would add a lot to the clan league and give almost everyone something to play for throughout the season.
But it needs stable clans.
But it needs stable clans.
14:14 Sun 8 May 11 (BST) [Link]
it wont make league shorter as each clan plays each other twice in 2 divisions.
14:16 Sun 8 May 11 (BST) [Link]
With 10 clans (again... miracle), we wouldn't need to play double I guess.
4 league fixtures, 3-4 cup fixtures.
Although that cheapens the league a bit with only 4 fixtures.
4 league fixtures, 3-4 cup fixtures.
Although that cheapens the league a bit with only 4 fixtures.
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14:29 Sun 8 May 11 (BST) [Link]
2 groups (not divisions) with a playoffs at the end?
Group A winners vs Group B runners up
Group B winners vs Group A runners up
Winner of match 1 vs winner of match 2
3rd place playoff
groups are randomnly selected at the start of each season
clan with the most points over the two groups at the end of the 'regular season' wins the regular season trophy
winners of playoffs get the clan league trophy
i think this gives more opportunity to lesser clans to get involved with the clan league trophy mix-up as well as shortening the league by a bit
each clan plays the people in their group twice/once (you can decide that) and this will of course run alongside the cup competition
Group A winners vs Group B runners up
Group B winners vs Group A runners up
Winner of match 1 vs winner of match 2
3rd place playoff
groups are randomnly selected at the start of each season
clan with the most points over the two groups at the end of the 'regular season' wins the regular season trophy
winners of playoffs get the clan league trophy
i think this gives more opportunity to lesser clans to get involved with the clan league trophy mix-up as well as shortening the league by a bit
each clan plays the people in their group twice/once (you can decide that) and this will of course run alongside the cup competition
14:32 Sun 8 May 11 (BST) [Link]
Clan League Revamp
topics on discussion:
Transfer Window?
Should we have a transfer window still implemented so players can switch clans for 1 week
2 divisions?
IF all clans make it through should we have 2 divisions with new clans in division 2.
Possible Ideas -
Ranking System - this will be continued throughout the seasons (doesn't stop at end of each season) each person or clan (whichever you prefer) will start on base 100 and will win/lose points depending on how well you do in matches.
Seeded Cup - now we have the plate it is possible to do seeded cup like 1 v 5, 2 v 6, 3 v 7, 4 v 8 or even random but ones in cup semis will be in 1 randomiser and ones in plate semis will be in another.
Cup + League together - this has been debatable and still is but we could do cup with 1 week deadline and league for 2, would get the season over much quicker.
Lowering team base?
right now we have 17 but thinking of lowering it to 15.
Being in next season:
Defaults - we won't use the full 6 points if players aren't active or make no effort
Pre Season Friendly - 2 fixtures instead of one to ensure better analysis on ability to get games played.
Edited at 11:47 Sun 08/05/11 (BST)
topics on discussion:
Transfer Window?
Should we have a transfer window still implemented so players can switch clans for 1 week
2 divisions?
IF all clans make it through should we have 2 divisions with new clans in division 2.
Possible Ideas -
Ranking System - this will be continued throughout the seasons (doesn't stop at end of each season) each person or clan (whichever you prefer) will start on base 100 and will win/lose points depending on how well you do in matches.
Seeded Cup - now we have the plate it is possible to do seeded cup like 1 v 5, 2 v 6, 3 v 7, 4 v 8 or even random but ones in cup semis will be in 1 randomiser and ones in plate semis will be in another.
Cup + League together - this has been debatable and still is but we could do cup with 1 week deadline and league for 2, would get the season over much quicker.
Lowering team base?
right now we have 17 but thinking of lowering it to 15.
Being in next season:
Defaults - we won't use the full 6 points if players aren't active or make no effort
Pre Season Friendly - 2 fixtures instead of one to ensure better analysis on ability to get games played.
Edited at 11:47 Sun 08/05/11 (BST)
14:38 Sun 8 May 11 (BST) [Link]
A few people didn't like pre-seasons. If we don't have them, ANY clan can join... guaranteed drop-outs.
We should do a standard 2 fixture set for pre-seasons. That way, you can tell who's fault the defaults are.
If we apply them strictly, we should have a decent chance of keeping all clans alive throughout the season
We should do a standard 2 fixture set for pre-seasons. That way, you can tell who's fault the defaults are.
If we apply them strictly, we should have a decent chance of keeping all clans alive throughout the season
14:40 Sun 8 May 11 (BST) [Link]
some don't but right now we have nothing else to see if clans have ability to compete under league format and deadlines.
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14:41 Sun 8 May 11 (BST) [Link]
5 teams in each potentially so 4 matches for each clan with one bye each fixture set for two different clans however this will run better with 8
fixture sets- 3 or 4 for regular season so 6-8 weeks
playoffs- 2 sets of fixtures so 4 weeks
overall league time- 10-12 weeks
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2 groups (not divisions) with a playoffs at the end?
Group A winners vs Group B runners up
Group B winners vs Group A runners up
Winner of match 1 vs winner of match 2
3rd place playoff
groups are randomnly selected at the start of each season
clan with the most points over the two groups at the end of the 'regular season' wins the regular season trophy
winners of playoffs get the clan league trophy
i think this gives more opportunity to lesser clans to get involved with the clan league trophy mix-up as well as shortening the league by a bit
each clan plays the people in their group twice/once (you can decide that) and this will of course run alongside the cup competition
Group A winners vs Group B runners up
Group B winners vs Group A runners up
Winner of match 1 vs winner of match 2
3rd place playoff
groups are randomnly selected at the start of each season
clan with the most points over the two groups at the end of the 'regular season' wins the regular season trophy
winners of playoffs get the clan league trophy
i think this gives more opportunity to lesser clans to get involved with the clan league trophy mix-up as well as shortening the league by a bit
each clan plays the people in their group twice/once (you can decide that) and this will of course run alongside the cup competition
5 teams in each potentially so 4 matches for each clan with one bye each fixture set for two different clans however this will run better with 8
fixture sets- 3 or 4 for regular season so 6-8 weeks
playoffs- 2 sets of fixtures so 4 weeks
overall league time- 10-12 weeks
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19:40 Sun 8 May 11 (BST) [Link]
IF we do get 2 divs instead of new clans go in 2nd div we could do a draw like d&c vs hawxs loser in div2 and winner div1
19:46 Sun 8 May 11 (BST) [Link]
rule has always been new clans in division 2 that way they start in lower league and work their way up.
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20:48 Sun 8 May 11 (BST) [Link]
i vote 100% less members in clans, it will make captains think wisely before letting just anybody in there clan, which means most clans will be reasonably consistant in playing there games.
amount of defaults we getting lately is stupid, and if it carrys on like this its pointless having the league to start with, something needs to change cause for one im getting a bit bored of wasting my time.
amount of defaults we getting lately is stupid, and if it carrys on like this its pointless having the league to start with, something needs to change cause for one im getting a bit bored of wasting my time.
22:22 Sun 8 May 11 (BST) [Link]
couldn't agree more to be honest, i spend hours doing the fixtures then spend a few hours on defaults depending how many they are.
if it was all electronic i could do fixtures in 30 minutes and defaults would be done automatically.
if it was all electronic i could do fixtures in 30 minutes and defaults would be done automatically.
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