hardly degraded apart from thunder hawx game we only had one or two defaults per game we played most of our matches and won most of our frames we beat you despite you having an extra ten points from bonuses so we win fair and square

Edited at 20:59 Thu 09/06/11 (BST)

You refused to play the deciding games in the face of everyone else. You won on paper by defaults. Surely degrades it.

anyway, i'm off guys, see you soon.

wasn't aware of any paper... do you print the scores out?

i can see both sides tbh, i can see deadline is a deadline and must be kept if not then defaults unless both captains agree.

but one point earlier that season we could have had a extra 10 bonus points which would have won us the league as it would stand but the captain on the other team would refuse to sub despite having a player online at the time of the deadline.

not mentioning who as its naming on forum plus its in the past, whats done is done, all we can do is move onto next season with a happy smile.

tbh that was pretty unlucky for you guys given that the original player fell ill on the deadline day

yeah can't be helped though and in a way i can't blame them for refusing to sub, it was their choice and nothing we could do can change that fact.

everything in life is a game about choices and doing what you can to making it happen.

anyway back to talking about rules for next season

should be couple pages back in an essay type style.

idea:

Name me - I have my tactical reasoning for my decision.

yep i know and thats why i said i don't blame you.

3 weeks and league and cup together however if the clan league is already won change that to two weeks cup final definitely three

isnt that alot though, could be anything up to 3 fixtures.

what i meant was...

3 week deadline for league only (before cup final released)

or

release league and cup together without a deadline but speeded up if needed as without a deadline 3 fixture isn't so bad (if that was case it would have to be 3 week deadline at least).

i know

my counter proposal is 3 week deadline final league and cup fixtures together so that people actually play them

First of all:

congrats to GP on winning the league. Thoroughly deserved. I wasn't in Hawx early enough to be involved.

Really don't understand what the whole argument over defaults. The deadline passed. The defaults happened. There shouldnt be any difference between normal round games and final round games.
It certainly doesn't "degrade" the winning of the league. Absolutely absurd to suggest that.

i think seb only mentioned it as alex admitted he wanted to win by defaults, could be wrong though.

back to business

Coming in next season:

Random Fixtures - to stop match fixing and can be any combination (1 or 2 in league, 1-7 in cup)
Lowering Team Base to 15 - was too many subs beforehand
Not using full 6 points for defaults - for those with like 1 hour v 0 hour playing time
fixture bans - those with multiple defaults or severe rule breaking
Pre season friendlies - 2 fixtures to ensure better activity and reliability
Plate - no playoff games, golden cue only (frames %)

Discuss:

2 divisions - If we have 10 teams pass the friendlies i will probably bring this in.

way it works is you play each clan twice.

new or returned clans ALWAYS start in division 2, ability has nothing to do with it.

Will talk about after Pre Season Friendlies

Transfer Window in middle of season? this was brought in so players can switch clans while still being eligible (Cup is different as if you played in a clan and you move then you are Cup-Tied)

This season we have had a number of clans with 7 or more defaults in a single fixture, should they be removed straight away or given 1 more chance to prove themselves?

Also Mine and Alex's Idea above.

I am also intriged to hear your ideas so we can discuss about them.

fire away.

Edited at 14:40 Fri 10/06/11 (BST)

Coming in next season:

Random Fixtures - to stop match fixing and can be any combination (1 or 2 in league, 1-7 in cup) - Was in place in my cup fixtures
Lowering Team Base to 15 - was too many subs beforehand
Not using full 6 points for defaults - for those with like 1 hour v 0 hour playing time - Needs to be there
fixture bans - those with multiple defaults or severe rule breaking
Pre season friendlies - 2 fixtures to ensure better activity and reliability
Plate - no playoff games, golden cue only (frames %)

rest are ok, fixture bans make me laugh a little though, perhaps a step too far. If it's for multiple defaults, then say a player had a string of 2-3 very inactive opponents in a row (all games therefore defaulted) then I think it would be unfair to impose a ban if everytime it has the opponents fault. He could be a very active player just draws awkward opponents.

yeah true but we had an instance this season where 1 player has only played 1 game all season despite having games in every week of the league meaning 6+ defaults?

obviously if its opponents fault then a ban is harsh which we won't do but if its your fault then whats the alternative (its just 1 fixture ban to start with unless its a second account or something serious).

plus league needs to be stricter a bit as at the moment we are too laid back.

Edited at 15:02 Fri 10/06/11 (BST)

an idea was posted can't remember who by (maybe kev or nh?) but they suggested an account has to be of a certain age before they can compete in league (to stop people deactivating and playing straight away).

on other hand to that you have to wait 2 weeks due to quarantine anyway.