its just trying to make it even for all types so 3 choices for each.

5+ 100-149 = half
10+ 150-199 = cent
15+ 200+ = max

something like that?

^ That sounds good. Only now you've made 107 = 147 again.

put 147/200 as 4 maybe and others as 3?

although if points is based on the same wavelength you don't get people switching types because of bonus not even.

never been done but just canceling possibility

Switching types?? They have to play what their captain tells them to play.

2 things that just came to my attention as i was reading the rules looking for loaning rules.

1) Various things may only be approved by the clan league runners. I think this should be changed to a panel with 1 representative from each clan, either captain or member of defaults team. This seems fairer than decisions being made by 2 people from the same clan. I'm not saying anything about james and seb here, who put a lot of time into it, but just that all clans should have some input i feel.

2) "If your stats are reset for cheating, your case will be referred to the defaults team". This needs changing as this information is confidential.

Second point first: I don't know why the case of "stats reset for cheating" is in there in the first place. We'll take that out for next season. Clearly, any form of cheating will be punished.

To your first point. The only thing I can see where the defaults team would not be involved is rule 6.3 "disconnects during games". Were you thinking of any other specific rules?

I doubt we'll create a new panel with a representative from each team. We could let the defaults team handle any cases you might be referring to.
As of now, I've received only positive feedback on the decisions we've made in our function as clan runners, but if you feel it is unfair at the moment, I'm sure we can discuss other options.

The problem in the original second point is that you won't know if their stats are reset by the player or as a result of cheating lol...

The other thing i saw on the original first point was the player loaning. But i guess could all be handled by default team.
I wasn't saying it was unfair as I know you and dgen are fair but things like that could be done by the default team probably.

there is a way

Reset for violating fair play guidelines but if an admin reactivates a few month old account then they have to do it to make it fair.

I'll take that point out for next season. It serves no purpose anyway.

The way we've handled major problems so far:
We look to see if anything is clearly specified in the rules. If it's not, then we've generally opened it up on this thread for captains to discuss. An example would be the deadline extensions that have happened in the last two seasons.

One problem with handing every single issue to the defaults team or any other similar group is timeliness. Loans and disconnections (the two rules in question) must usually happen quickly, otherwise the deadline is over. Anything that goes to the default team takes about 3-5 days in order to give members a chance to log in and comment. For a real discussion, members may need to comment several times. I see the time needed as being a problem here.

Another problem would be the massive arguments that would probably erupt over certain issues. So far, being able to make the decision quickly and without much argument has worked well.

Yeah i know time would be a problem. It's just that it's hard for you two to make those decisions at the end of the season as if they make D&C win then people will be suspicious, and if they make D&C lose then people will think you are being harsh to your own clan to not seem biassed lol. its a lose-lose situation.

Well, good example was the end of last season. There was a question of extending the deadline to not let the season be decided on defaults.
We ended up not doing that (despite obviously being in favor of it since we were behind), because we opened discussion on this thread. Games went to defaults. I think that's a pretty good indicator that decisions are not made to benefit D&C; we also didn't get any grief from our own players.

I personally don't see the need to add complications to the current situation unless people are unhappy with how decisions have been handled. But if most people want it changed, then sure.

also we allowed more time for people's messages as at the time the 1 point decided the whole league.

Just thinking, you may already have this, but for users who quit clans a lot and generally are a pain to get hold of, why not have a ban on a few users for the league? As it's unfair on everyone's part when they have to be chased every 5 min.

I was thinking already that at the end of the season I would write up a list of those people that
1- quit clans a lot
2- conceded fixtures this season
3- lost 2 or more defaults this season

Totally agree, especially the last one. Well maybe tweak it because sometimes both parties do try, but that could be down to discretion.

Yes, in case of doubt I wouldn't stick them on. Was thinking more of a 5-1/6-0 loss, since then it's clearly that player's fault.

Yeah I agree there. Give like 2 fixture bans, and repeated offenders ban for like half a season etc?

atm we have 1 fixture ban for offenders but if it isn't enough we could expand on it like seb/you said

i was thinking 1 fix ban, 2 fix ban, half season, season ban and if its that bad (unless its the 2nd account) permanent ban.

only had to give a permanent ban once that was due to harassment but had to let it go as this person kept making new accounts when he was found out.

Edited at 13:05 Wed 28/09/11 (BST)

Honestly, I would give a warning first (which we'll do after the season). If it happens again, go for a 3 fixture ban (cup and league, so it's more than just one set). Then permanent.
What you suggested would mean that people could do it 5 times before getting banned completely.
First thing we'll do- at the end of the season, I'll make that list with warnings (shouldn't be too big). I want to make sure that only people who knew about the rule get on that list. For example, when jaybyrne conceded, he definitely thought he wasn't doing anything wrong. I spoke with him and he got his game played. No need for warnings in those cases.

by fixture ban i mean fixture set so they miss the 2 weeks.