of course, we had to have the 2 best clans didn't we

Please send 2 sets of lineups to dgeneratio. The format of the lineups follows:

For each opponent (every clan has 2 opponents), you need

2 Arcade players
2 Regular players
2 Original players
2 Carom players
1 Power player

We will send a message around to all captains tomorrow, when the deadline for signups passes.

my two sides sent inbox to dgen for the two friendlies

This season's bonus league:

Halfs: 1
Cents: 2
Arc Max: 3
Reg/Orig Max: 4

Power Cents (100-149): 1
Power Cents (150-199): 2
Power Cents (200+): 4

Carom 5+: 1
Carom 10+: 2
Carom 15+: 4

We talked about this a while ago. Is this ok or are changes needed. We want to keep 3 categories per type, but separate arc and reg/orig max.

We also haven't really decided on the completion bonus for next season.

Currently, both clans get a bonus of 10 points if all the games in their fixture are completed.

A couple of FSE'ers suggested that if the last (or more?) unplayed game in a fixture is due to one player conceding, the other team will still get the bonus.

Another suggestion is that the team in this situation will get a 5 point bonus, instead of the full 10 points (because not all games have been completed).

Final suggestion was made to scrap the bonus entirely.

Again, options:

1. Keep it as it is. 10 points for completed fixture, no exceptions.
2. If defaults are all due to conceding, give 10 points to the other team.
3. If defaults are all due to conceding, give 5 points to the other team.
4. Eliminate the completion bonus entirely.

We have to get this sorted before the real league games start.

If we allow this, there is no point in pre-season friendlies. If you can just have anyone play the games for you on short notice, the pre-season friendlies are a farce.
Clans are supposed to show that they can get games played under the clan league rules.

1st post - bonus system - fine

2nd post - either scrap or if its number 2 we need to reword the rules accordingly as it wouldn't be 10 bonus points for completion anymore imo.

3rd post - fine as it is

Award hehe

I vote for option 2.

And that would cover only conceded games? Meaning if they run out of subs and can't get the games done, it wouldn't apply?

another idea from me:

how about those who join a tournament during a clan match gets a warning, as i feel its a lack of respect, just shows they care more about tournaments than the match itself.

thoughts?

Edited at 21:11 Tue 25/10/11 (BST)

Way too hard to monitor. People could just easily claim that they had already entered the tournament. Also, lets say someone was going for the month tournapoints win, would be a bit tight to punish them for that if it's on the 31st of the month for example and just need to win the tourny to win the medal.

one things for sure, if it does keep happening it shows the tournapoints and increase in tournament additions has a influential effect on the league, i had a bad feeling it would from day one.

but i mean only during a clan match, sure its different if you have to go or your in a tournament before you play but imo staying online to go into a tournament during a clan match is the equivalent as conceding.

Edited at 21:44 Tue 25/10/11 (BST)

might test clan rankings season coming, ill have lots of time next season as im leaving pool staff anyway.

we would know who the top clan is of the season but wouldn't you like to know who the top clan of the clan league is?

way i would do it is whatever points you finish on that will be your ranking for that season.

only thing im wondering is if to include cup and how would i do it?

EDIT: i could even so a pre version later as i could have a look at tables (would only do those with a full table not 1st xxx 2nd xxx).

Edited at 15:22 Wed 26/10/11 (BST)

Pre Version (all clans involved who has score some kind of points will be in) (from Season 5-7)

League Only:

1st Dollars and Cents - 553 (3 seasons)
2nd All Starz - 404 (3 seasons)
3rd Globe Potters - 362 (3 seasons)
4th Untouchables - 344 (2 seasons)
5th Chaos Crew - 253 (2 seasons)
6th Thunder Hawxs - 217 (2 seasons)
7th Funkysnooker Elite - 175 (1 season)
8th Poolers - 114 (2 seasons)
9th Attacking Super Stars - 113 (1 season)
10th Black Ballers - 96 (1 season)
11th Punishers - 93 (1 season)

thats how it stands until now but its an example table, if i was to do this fairly i would add cup, bonus league and clan league results from this season coming.

Edited at 19:12 Wed 26/10/11 (BST)

Might not work as the League doesn't have a fixed number of participants, because this season we could have like 8-9 clans? Last season we had 6. There are now more points available.

I think I have an idea you could look into. (This excludes Bonuses though)

thats fine

I think rankings should be just simple. The order they finished in the league last season is their ranking for this season. And new clans can be un-seeded. I don't really see the need for ranking clans anyway.

There's too much of a turnover in clans in the league. Rankings only work when you have roughly the same clans participating over and over. That doesn't happen here and probably won't happen in the future.

Biggest issue we still have to decide on is the completion bonus. This must be done before the end of the season. Only damee has posted his preference so far. Will send a message to captains if we don't get more comments.