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00:02 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
whocares8x8 said:
We also haven't really decided on the completion bonus for next season.
Currently, both clans get a bonus of 10 points if all the games in their fixture are completed.
A couple of FSE'ers suggested that if the last (or more?) unplayed game in a fixture is due to one player conceding, the other team will still get the bonus.
Another suggestion is that the team in this situation will get a 5 point bonus, instead of the full 10 points (because not all games have been completed).
Final suggestion was made to scrap the bonus entirely.
Again, options:
1. Keep it as it is. 10 points for completed fixture, no exceptions.
2. If defaults are all due to conceding, give 10 points to the other team.
3. If defaults are all due to conceding, give 5 points to the other team.
4. Eliminate the completion bonus entirely.
We have to get this sorted before the real league games start.
Currently, both clans get a bonus of 10 points if all the games in their fixture are completed.
A couple of FSE'ers suggested that if the last (or more?) unplayed game in a fixture is due to one player conceding, the other team will still get the bonus.
Another suggestion is that the team in this situation will get a 5 point bonus, instead of the full 10 points (because not all games have been completed).
Final suggestion was made to scrap the bonus entirely.
Again, options:
1. Keep it as it is. 10 points for completed fixture, no exceptions.
2. If defaults are all due to conceding, give 10 points to the other team.
3. If defaults are all due to conceding, give 5 points to the other team.
4. Eliminate the completion bonus entirely.
We have to get this sorted before the real league games start.
00:15 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
think 3 should be scrapped tbh seb as no one in right mind would choose it because number 2 is there
i don't mind which one you choose tbh so i can't vote.
i don't mind which one you choose tbh so i can't vote.
01:02 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
Why does the league seem so much simpler and easier to run over here than pool?
01:05 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
because we all get along and don't have people who tend to argue.
damee said:
Why does the league seem so much simpler and easier to run over here than pool?
because we all get along and don't have people who tend to argue.
01:24 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
Option 2 was suggested the last time we spoke about it by Alex (I might be wrong). It was a compromise between those who said no bonus points at all (because games weren't completed) and full bonus points (because it wasn't their fault).
One point I still want clarified from those who support Option 2: This only covers conceded games? Meaning if one team is out of subs and their player is offline for 20 days, it doesn't count? If that's the case, I'll go along as well.
If we say that scenario should count too, then I'm against it.
One point I still want clarified from those who support Option 2: This only covers conceded games? Meaning if one team is out of subs and their player is offline for 20 days, it doesn't count? If that's the case, I'll go along as well.
If we say that scenario should count too, then I'm against it.
15:03 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
I'll send message to captains on the weekend, if there;s nothing until then.
15:42 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
Option 2. I've suggested it twice now, and agree with it. On what seb said, I would prefer if that was covered too, but if not then the offending player should get an instant ban from the next fixtures to stop them doing it again, pending exceptional circumstances eg serious illness, computer breaking, death etc.
21:46 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
i dont think it should be covered tbh otherwise in my mind we should just scrap bonus altogether as it wouldn't be a reward anymore.
23:03 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
I just don't see why it shouldn't be covered. The clan is currently being rewarded for their opponents activity as much as their own. Say player A doesn't log on once in the window, player B somehow stays on 24/7 for the whole window. Team A doesn't sub. How is it fair that team B are denied the chance for bonus points through absolutely no fault of their own?
23:08 Thu 27 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
in that case i think bonus points should be scrapped entirely then its all about winning your games (either by default or playing) problem solved
00:24 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
The reason I wouldn't include that circumstance is that now we've turned a completion bonus into a "win your defaults" bonus.
What if a player was offline for the last 7 days and they can't sub? 5 days? 3 days? It's a slippery slope.
The whole idea is to reduce defaults. If it doesn't accomplish this, let's cut it out (option 4).
I'm still in favor of keeping it the way it is. Everyone has to deal with the same clans.
Edited at 22:02 Thu 27/10/11 (BST)
What if a player was offline for the last 7 days and they can't sub? 5 days? 3 days? It's a slippery slope.
The whole idea is to reduce defaults. If it doesn't accomplish this, let's cut it out (option 4).
I'm still in favor of keeping it the way it is. Everyone has to deal with the same clans.
Edited at 22:02 Thu 27/10/11 (BST)
00:47 Fri 28 Oct 11 (BST) [Link]
Same clans*, not opponents.
whocares8x8 said:
Everyone has to deal with the same opponents.
Same clans*, not opponents.
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