I think they mean 2 frames of arc, reg, orig an d carom not just arc.

Yes, if both players want it, it will be 2 of each game type, and 1 of power (9 total).

Slatty's suggestion about cases where one player deactivates after the game has started. Opinions?

Only thing I would add to this is that it could/should be extended to times where a player has left or been kicked out of a clan rather than just deactivated players.

I'm not against this idea- as long as both clans have to agree. Otherwise, you'll get a player leaving at 0-4 down to get a better sub.

true which was a discussion on pool about the same thing, if both clans agree i can't see an issue to implement this

Posted this on pool so i copied here:

regarding the horse/chris discussion snooker is having this same discussion and we may have some up with a solution.

to be able to sub in games already started but not finished BOTH captains has to agree for the sub to take place (points would count), if one captain does not agree then its like the current guidelines and go to default.

mandatory subbing would include a "Ban" or a "Deactivated" user who can no longer reactivate in that scenario you can sub without captains consent. in the games where people "Rage Quit" etc what does not include "Bans" or "Deactivation" then you need captains consent.

thoughts?

Edited at 12:19 Sat 21/01/12 (GMT)

wait wait wait.

The game would be abandoned and started at 0-0 with the new players, right?
Is that what you meant slatty?

ah if that is the case then thats a better solution as it would be fair play.

I think thats more open for arguments and problems. If you are only allowed to do this when a player has left a clan for one reason or another it will be more easily managed

yup

I will never be in favor of any mandatory subbing. Our current system works very well and I think slatty's suggestion would fit in very nicely.

hey league runners.

did i get it right that the last fixture did get an extra week now as it is very important?
Just read it on allstarz thread where dgen explained it like that! somehow i dont agree with that as it gives the clans playing in last fixture set a better chance to get the bonus points. this is absolutely unfair as clans with a bye in this fixture are disadvantaged by this!
sorry to complain about things the league runners decided but...........

cheers

yes its right, it also it stops the chance of extension from my view. i think it was decided for this season.

at one time the cup final had no time limit whatsoever which of course didn't work as clans took around 4 weeks to get them played. it got cut down to 2 but because of defaults extension was allowed, this time its almost like a week extension if you like

Doomslave: Good point- with byes it is an advantage for the teams playing.
Two solutions for next season:
1. Only give the Cup/Plate Final a 3-week deadline.
2. Give the league games a 3-week deadline like now, but team can only earn the completion bonus if the games are completed after 14 days.

option 1, makes the league shorter i agree the extended deadline should only be for the cup as you don't see league extensions that much but you see cup extensions all the time

And what do u wanna tell me with that james?

All fixtures were planned to be played within 2 weeks but not the last?
In my opinion fixture deadlines are deadlines which should not be extended! I really dont agree. On the other hand cup/plate is a totally different story and has nothing to do with the league itself.

havent seen your following 2 posts lads

The only thing in defense of this season- the byes weren't planned, they were only created when a clan folded early in the season. Will be changed for next season.

I am sorry seb. but there should not have been an extension for this last fixture, no matter for which reason!

ok calm down tiger, mistakes happen, the future is you fix it.

it was made 3 weeks intentionally as it was the most important fixture and we didn't want them decided by defaults but on the tables.

you told us a valid point, were fixing it