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23:36 Fri 15 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
so many other than the 96 affected as well
survivors, friends, family and football as a whole
survivors, friends, family and football as a whole
23:47 Fri 15 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
I do agree alot of people lost family, friends mums dads daughters and it's a horrible thing to have happen and with new regulations etc hopefully something like this will never be seen in football.
Also I no all about what happend and I no why it's a abig occasion every year and with the bubzy boys it's the biggest thing ever to happen in football.
But I don't get the JFT 96, is that said to keep their name alive, for them to be known what they died for? Or is it said in the fact somebody wants something done about this
Could you enlighten me please.
Also I no all about what happend and I no why it's a abig occasion every year and with the bubzy boys it's the biggest thing ever to happen in football.
But I don't get the JFT 96, is that said to keep their name alive, for them to be known what they died for? Or is it said in the fact somebody wants something done about this
Could you enlighten me please.
03:49 Sat 16 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
JFT 96 - Justice for the 96.
Basically the police were blaming the Liverpool fans for what had happened, the scum newspaper acused Liverpool fans of all sorts of horrid disgusting things to our dead friends and family.
So in 2009 (I think) the Labour Government FINALLY after 20 years decide to review the case and their judgement is due next year, and it looks to be that they are going to rule in favour of us and give the family the justice they deserve.
Something similar happened in France, a smaller team had a huge game built a temporary stand and the stand collapsed killing a couple of dozen people. The people in charge of that game (Head of police and French Fa) were relieved from their duties due to poor work on their behalf. None of the people in charge at Hillsborough accepted fault or even a mistake yet just passed the blame onto the 96 dead fans as they THOUGHT no one could argue back.
Well they were wrong and the Justice campaign is stronger than ever and justice looks closer.
There are obvious grey bits in there as that is just the outline of the story, but you can find it on many websites on the internet, hope I have cleared it up for you.
Basically the police were blaming the Liverpool fans for what had happened, the scum newspaper acused Liverpool fans of all sorts of horrid disgusting things to our dead friends and family.
So in 2009 (I think) the Labour Government FINALLY after 20 years decide to review the case and their judgement is due next year, and it looks to be that they are going to rule in favour of us and give the family the justice they deserve.
Something similar happened in France, a smaller team had a huge game built a temporary stand and the stand collapsed killing a couple of dozen people. The people in charge of that game (Head of police and French Fa) were relieved from their duties due to poor work on their behalf. None of the people in charge at Hillsborough accepted fault or even a mistake yet just passed the blame onto the 96 dead fans as they THOUGHT no one could argue back.
Well they were wrong and the Justice campaign is stronger than ever and justice looks closer.
There are obvious grey bits in there as that is just the outline of the story, but you can find it on many websites on the internet, hope I have cleared it up for you.
04:23 Sat 16 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
Ahh thanks mich realy has cleared them gray bits up for me.
Also hopefully justice is serverd alot of people died that day when it was easily avoided the fans are not to blaime! For example Stoke Citys Version of the Kop is the Boothen End and if it ment going in there extremly over croweded or any of the other stands I no where I would try to get in.
Measures should of being put in place, from what I have read they were but then they didnt keep at it leading for everybody trying to get themselfs into the ground!
Hopefully Justice will be served for the people who lost their lifes obviously nuthing will replace them but it must be a whole lot worse knowing nuthing has being done about it!
Also hopefully justice is serverd alot of people died that day when it was easily avoided the fans are not to blaime! For example Stoke Citys Version of the Kop is the Boothen End and if it ment going in there extremly over croweded or any of the other stands I no where I would try to get in.
Measures should of being put in place, from what I have read they were but then they didnt keep at it leading for everybody trying to get themselfs into the ground!
Hopefully Justice will be served for the people who lost their lifes obviously nuthing will replace them but it must be a whole lot worse knowing nuthing has being done about it!
12:19 Sat 16 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
One of the main officers in charge when asked why no supporters were guided into other "pens" said, the fans were expected to know when it was too full and therefore guide themselves. (something along them lines.)
Now how could fans know how to guide themselves around a stadium they are not used to when that is the job of the police and stewards to know when it is too full and to close the gates etc.
Now how could fans know how to guide themselves around a stadium they are not used to when that is the job of the police and stewards to know when it is too full and to close the gates etc.
15:06 Sat 16 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
Yeah I agree, I used to go every single away game 2/3 times I have gone into the ground and realised I am in the home end would think I would notice the colours they wear lol (once I brought a home ticket said to the steward ay up am in wrong place he walked us across the pitch all because we were sold out) it's like putting somebody in London when you have never being there before and saying 'find your own way around' it's not as easy at it seems some times!
People get paid to do a job and if they fail to do the job in hand they should be punished it makes no difference if your picking up min wage or £20 a hour you get paid to do something.
People get paid to do a job and if they fail to do the job in hand they should be punished it makes no difference if your picking up min wage or £20 a hour you get paid to do something.
22:13 Sat 16 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
On a brighter note, at least we won't have to listen to Man Yoo fans going on about the treble any longer this season
Sir Alex Ferguson: "It's nice to be in the semi-final but there's always a great satisfaction in being in the final. We'll take that."
Oh well ... perhaps City will tell him what it's like
Sir Alex Ferguson: "It's nice to be in the semi-final but there's always a great satisfaction in being in the final. We'll take that."
Oh well ... perhaps City will tell him what it's like
21:30 Sun 17 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
Boooom cheers liverpool use are good for something haha
21:54 Sun 17 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
Nah im off to a funeral then have tennis at half 8 so
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22:23 Sun 17 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
LMAO! That was funny!!
Wenger and KK at the end as well!! Was in tears of laughter when KK told him to "go away in no uncertain terms"
Well done Eboue, you bloody donkey!!
Edited by forum moderator baff, at 20:41 Sun 17/04/11 (BST)
Wenger and KK at the end as well!! Was in tears of laughter when KK told him to "go away in no uncertain terms"
Well done Eboue, you bloody donkey!!
Edited by forum moderator baff, at 20:41 Sun 17/04/11 (BST)
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22:29 Sun 17 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
The problem with Hillsbrough was once you were in the "pens", even if you knew it was getting crowded, there was no way out. The police blamed Liverpool fans for getting in without tickets, but it simply wasn't true. There was loads of room to the left and right of the Leppings Lane stand.
The whole thing was one catastrophic shambles from start to finish. Giving Liverpool the smaller end of the ground for example, it would have been the same as giving Stoke less tickets than Bolton. Stupid.
Then to top it off the police then told the ambulance service they weren't needed at first, when people were dying around them and in need of care. The ambulances therefore never arrived on to the pitch until it was to late for a lot of people.
The blame centres around a lack of preparation and common sense.
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Yeah I agree, I used to go every single away game 2/3 times I have gone into the ground and realised I am in the home end would think I would notice the colours they wear lol (once I brought a home ticket said to the steward ay up am in wrong place he walked us across the pitch all because we were sold out) it's like putting somebody in London when you have never being there before and saying 'find your own way around' it's not as easy at it seems some times!
People get paid to do a job and if they fail to do the job in hand they should be punished it makes no difference if your picking up min wage or £20 a hour you get paid to do something.
People get paid to do a job and if they fail to do the job in hand they should be punished it makes no difference if your picking up min wage or £20 a hour you get paid to do something.
The problem with Hillsbrough was once you were in the "pens", even if you knew it was getting crowded, there was no way out. The police blamed Liverpool fans for getting in without tickets, but it simply wasn't true. There was loads of room to the left and right of the Leppings Lane stand.
The whole thing was one catastrophic shambles from start to finish. Giving Liverpool the smaller end of the ground for example, it would have been the same as giving Stoke less tickets than Bolton. Stupid.
Then to top it off the police then told the ambulance service they weren't needed at first, when people were dying around them and in need of care. The ambulances therefore never arrived on to the pitch until it was to late for a lot of people.
The blame centres around a lack of preparation and common sense.
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22:31 Sun 17 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
well done stoke btw took advantage of a very poor bolton side
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16:31 Mon 18 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch/anfield-beckons-for-premier-league-duo
if only its probably a load of rubbish though
if only its probably a load of rubbish though
19:42 Mon 18 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
What else could I say other than AMAZING!
To go 1-0 up Iwas worried seen stoke too many times take a early lead and give it up! The second goal came gave us all a sign of relief and finally 30 minutes it was all over. They were out played out classed and there was nuthing they could do to stop what was to be an amazing result.
All 5 goals very well worked out espicially the Walters 1 he is amazing, when he first started I was thinking he's just going to be a nobody but OMG! how he has changed everybodys opinion now he's definatly 1 for the future!
The best day of my life when that final whistle went, and delilah came out on the PA system and the who Stoke end stood on their feet and shouted as 1 what a feeling, also on the subject of fans Bolton fans were alright they tried to chant but takes alot overpower the sound of Stoke!
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Also, In 1946 33 Stoke fans died and 400 were injured in the same circumstances maybe something should of being done after that.
To go 1-0 up Iwas worried seen stoke too many times take a early lead and give it up! The second goal came gave us all a sign of relief and finally 30 minutes it was all over. They were out played out classed and there was nuthing they could do to stop what was to be an amazing result.
All 5 goals very well worked out espicially the Walters 1 he is amazing, when he first started I was thinking he's just going to be a nobody but OMG! how he has changed everybodys opinion now he's definatly 1 for the future!
The best day of my life when that final whistle went, and delilah came out on the PA system and the who Stoke end stood on their feet and shouted as 1 what a feeling, also on the subject of fans Bolton fans were alright they tried to chant but takes alot overpower the sound of Stoke!
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Also, In 1946 33 Stoke fans died and 400 were injured in the same circumstances maybe something should of being done after that.
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00:09 Tue 19 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
Hate how our Offal has transfer gossip. Been cases of some of it being traced back to The S*n as well.
The offal should just be for news about the club, not 'creative journalism'
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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch/anfield-beckons-for-premier-league-duo
if only its probably a load of rubbish though
if only its probably a load of rubbish though
Hate how our Offal has transfer gossip. Been cases of some of it being traced back to The S*n as well.
The offal should just be for news about the club, not 'creative journalism'
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00:15 Tue 19 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
Didn't see any of that game was out playing footie myself (still knackered now ) but 5-0 is a massive win in a semi final.
Hope you beat City, nobody thought Brum would beat Arsenal in the tinpot cup so you have a real chance.
Think City will win though, they are a huge team as well. (Physically huge, not metaphorically)
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What else could I say other than AMAZING!
To go 1-0 up Iwas worried seen stoke too many times take a early lead and give it up! The second goal came gave us all a sign of relief and finally 30 minutes it was all over. They were out played out classed and there was nuthing they could do to stop what was to be an amazing result.
All 5 goals very well worked out espicially the Walters 1 he is amazing, when he first started I was thinking he's just going to be a nobody but OMG! how he has changed everybodys opinion now he's definatly 1 for the future!
The best day of my life when that final whistle went, and delilah came out on the PA system and the who Stoke end stood on their feet and shouted as 1 what a feeling, also on the subject of fans Bolton fans were alright they tried to chant but takes alot overpower the sound of Stoke!
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Also, In 1946 33 Stoke fans died and 400 were injured in the same circumstances maybe something should of being done after that.
To go 1-0 up Iwas worried seen stoke too many times take a early lead and give it up! The second goal came gave us all a sign of relief and finally 30 minutes it was all over. They were out played out classed and there was nuthing they could do to stop what was to be an amazing result.
All 5 goals very well worked out espicially the Walters 1 he is amazing, when he first started I was thinking he's just going to be a nobody but OMG! how he has changed everybodys opinion now he's definatly 1 for the future!
The best day of my life when that final whistle went, and delilah came out on the PA system and the who Stoke end stood on their feet and shouted as 1 what a feeling, also on the subject of fans Bolton fans were alright they tried to chant but takes alot overpower the sound of Stoke!
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Also, In 1946 33 Stoke fans died and 400 were injured in the same circumstances maybe something should of being done after that.
Didn't see any of that game was out playing footie myself (still knackered now ) but 5-0 is a massive win in a semi final.
Hope you beat City, nobody thought Brum would beat Arsenal in the tinpot cup so you have a real chance.
Think City will win though, they are a huge team as well. (Physically huge, not metaphorically)
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00:33 Tue 19 Apr 11 (BST) [Link]
stoke could beat them tactically i reckon i rate pulis higher than mancini
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