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03:56 Thu 6 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
2good said:
Bit drunk but here is the deal: Liverpool will win convincingly.

If you watch a full Liverpool game often, it is quite obvious Luis Suarez is different class, and in a league of his own in what he does.

Goals and assists, dribbles and skills. Luis Suarez has EVERYTHING!

Wouldn't swap him for anyone on the planet bar Messi.

Edited at 00:36 Thu 06/10/11 (BST)


Yeah you must be drunk if you think liverpool will win and suarez is the second best player in the world if real madrid offer ronaldo for suarez you'd say no? :o, but he was a manc so i wouldnt be surprised if you said no haha
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05:17 Thu 6 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Slight over-exaggeration of Suarez here I feel... Mike. Lol.

He is a superb player though, I just dislike how he is more dirty than Brazil+Spain+Italy+Ronaldo+Nani+Drogba -- Combined.

Just popped on to say how brilliant Chelsea are playing now. Pre-season we were brilliant and Sturridge was scoring left right centre with both feet and even his noggin. Great to see him carry if through.

One thing I really dont like is... Sturridge v Welbeck.

Welbeck gets all this praise, "He will be better than Rooney" "English prodigy" "The new/old Michael Owen".

Welbck gets chosen for England, Sturridge overlooked and reportedly not even shortlisted in the top 30 squad.

After seeing them both play on numerous occassions, I think its ovbious that Welbeck scores created chances, period. Whereas Sturridge created 3 goals and created his own goals as well against Bolton last Sunday.

I just no that if Sturridge was at Utd and Welbeck at Chelsea, there would be more hype about Sturridge than there is Welbeck currently.

Great to see Chelsea back to an attractive style of attacking football. Reminds me of the late 90's of the Chelsea days and mid 00's.

Mata is incredible, really impressed me, Ramieres playing fantastic, Lampard proving everyone to be beyond stupid for doubting his ability... Torres scoring and stunning Sturridge.

To think we still have Essien to come back, Drogba to play and a quality bench.

Very excited for thsis season now.
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13:08 Thu 6 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I personally think Liverpool vs United will end a draw with United grabbing a late equalizer, but watch Suarez run rings around them like he did last season, he humiliated their defence.

I personally feel the same with you Derry about Sturridge, thing is with Chelsea they are more known for their foreign players rather than their English ones, I believe if he was in a team known for their English as well as foreign players, United/Liverpool etc then he would definately be part of the squad.

I know it's wrong but hey, we don't pick the team and you will always find all this favouritism towards United as they are the team of the moment/past 15-20 years.

But like Liverpool in the 80's their time will come to a halt (probably when Ferguson retires) and there will be a new team at the top, with all the hype and all the favouritism. It's the way football and the media work.

Anyway back to prediction

Liverpool 1-1 United

Suarez/Kuyt and Young/Nani for them last minute.
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19:41 Thu 6 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Gunna be a great game as usual, i just hope if cleverly is fit he plays instead of anderson alongside darren fletcher cleverly can create while fletcher could sit back and break things up.

The defence will NEED to improve on recent perfromances if were to keep a clean sheet if we defend like we did vs norwich and basle liverpool will smash it!

cant wait! :DD
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19:49 Thu 6 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I would also consider playing ji sung park instead of young, park was played well vs norwich and never lets us down i the big games
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22:07 Thu 6 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
virt_slayer said:
Reina > De Gea
Kelly > fabio or smalling
Carra = Ferdinand
Skrtel < Jones
Jose Enrique =/ > Evra not sure on this one
Kuyt<Young different kinds of players but i think young is a better player technically
Downing<Nani a close one but Nani is just amazing to watch at times
Gerrard > Carrick/ whoever
Lucas > Cleverly/ Anderson
Suarez = Rooney
Carroll<Hernandez at the moment anyway

Overall Liverpool has 4.5 >
Man United have 4 but a few iffy equals in there


Going to be close...


Have to be fair, thats crap...

Not trying to argue or anything but kelly is not better than fabio or smalling, carragher hasnt got a patch on rio, evra would roast enrique? Couldn't agree more with the Gerrard > Carrick part lucas is in his boobs better than cleverly or anderson, rooney has 9 goals in the league suarez has 4... i dont need to say much more than that really.. that means united have 9, only a liverpool fan could give those views..
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22:17 Thu 6 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
nicko said:
virt_slayer said:
Reina > De Gea
Kelly > fabio or smalling
Carra = Ferdinand
Skrtel < Jones
Jose Enrique =/ > Evra not sure on this one
Kuyt<Young different kinds of players but i think young is a better player technically
Downing<Nani a close one but Nani is just amazing to watch at times
Gerrard > Carrick/ whoever
Lucas > Cleverly/ Anderson
Suarez = Rooney
Carroll<Hernandez at the moment anyway
Overall Liverpool has 4.5 >
Man United have 4 but a few iffy equals in there
Going to be close...

Have to be fair, thats crap...

Not trying to argue or anything but kelly is not better than fabio or smalling, carragher hasnt got a patch on rio, evra would roast enrique? Couldn't agree more with the Gerrard > Carrick part lucas is in his boobs better than cleverly or anderson, rooney has 9 goals in the league suarez has 4... i dont need to say much more than that really.. that means united have 9, only a liverpool fan could give those views..

I would say Kelly is better than Fabio, Smalling is probably better though.
Carragher is not the player he once was and has lost it severely and making loads of mistakes this season so you are right with Rio being better than him but I would only say it has been this season.
Enrique = Evra IMO
And Rooney and Suarez are completely different players so to compare them is strange IMO I would say Suarez is more technical and more of a winger than a striker. Where as as a striker Rooney is far better.
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22:26 Thu 6 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
De Gea sucks

Smalling only got into the England team because Johnson and Kelly were injured.

Ferdinand has been playing terribly recently

Evra hasn't had a patch on enrique this season but is one fo the best LBs in the world

Phil Jones has been playing brilliantly

Young has been playing brilliantly

Nani has been brilliant since last year

Carrick sucks

Cleverly and Anderson are decent players but the way Lucas has been playing they dont have a patch on him

Suarez and Rooney are two top strikers world class I think it would be unfair for either of them to be considered better than the other.

Hernandez is on better form than Carroll
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22:27 Thu 6 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
The thing with Kelly is that hes better at defending than Fabio but Fabio is better at attacking than Kelly, which nearly cuts it down the middle as its an attacking defending balance to be met in that position.

Smalling has really really impressed me this season at RB. I think Rio has been the better defender for years tho hes quality and if it wasn't for his injuries would probably still be the captain of both United and England.

About Enrique, hes good enough for Liverpool and Newcastle but honestly think about wheter he's good enough to play for a team thats been in the Champions League final 3 of the last 4 years (albeit only winning one but still there), and the current Premier League Champions and then consider Evra.. Played in 4 Champions League finals already.

I think Suarez is quality tho to be honest but i think Rooney is far more gifted as a footballer you can see it in his pace, tackling, passing, shooting, heading, hes pure quality.

United Havent Had a midfielder who could run a match like Gerrard since The likes of Keane or Scholes in his day, but i think Cleverly will be that new midfield genious, and when Anderson comes on a bit more he will be the General.
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22:33 Thu 6 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
virt_slayer said:
De Gea sucks

Smalling only got into the England team because Johnson and Kelly were injured.

Ferdinand has been playing terribly recently

Evra hasn't had a patch on enrique this season but is one fo the best LBs in the world

Phil Jones has been playing brilliantly

Young has been playing brilliantly

Nani has been brilliant since last year

Carrick sucks

Cleverly and Anderson are decent players but the way Lucas has been playing they dont have a patch on him

Suarez and Rooney are two top strikers world class I think it would be unfair for either of them to be considered better than the other.

Hernandez is on better form than Carroll


Bolox...

Evra is better than Enrique the CV is all you need to know that. Ferdinand hasn't been playing, carragher is crap as of late. Carrick does suck! Cleverly and Anderson are quality this season and always will be better than Lucas ( thats why hes not with champions..)
Suarez is a top striker but Rooney is the top striker.

Hernandez and Carroll are completely different, Carrol will always be better at the likes of holding the ball up and laying it off and getting his head on crosses, but Hernandez is the best goal poacher in the premier league since Ruud Boy, buries nearly every chance he gets. Hes a far better finisher than Carroll and will be for some time.
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22:34 Thu 6 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Difference between Hernandez and Carroll? you won't see Hernandez smashing in a 30 yarder
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22:37 Thu 6 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Most people would much rather a striker who will get ya 20+ goals a season, Hernandez was an absolute bargin as well.
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22:38 Thu 6 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
virt_slayer said:
Difference between Hernandez and Carroll? you won't see Hernandez smashing in a 30 yarder
True, but you'll see him tapping in three 5-yarders instead.
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22:40 Thu 6 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
kind of implied seb...
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22:50 Thu 6 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Oh right, it sounded like the occasional 30-yarder was a good thing. I like the numerous 5-yarders more.
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23:44 Thu 6 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
cue_power said:
Just popped on to say how brilliant Chelsea are playing now. Pre-season we were brilliant and Sturridge was scoring left right centre with both feet and even his noggin. Great to see him carry if through.

One thing I really dont like is... Sturridge v Welbeck.

Welbeck gets all this praise, "He will be better than Rooney" "English prodigy" "The new/old Michael Owen".

Welbck gets chosen for England, Sturridge overlooked and reportedly not even shortlisted in the top 30 squad.

After seeing them both play on numerous occassions, I think its ovbious that Welbeck scores created chances, period. Whereas Sturridge created 3 goals and created his own goals as well against Bolton last Sunday.

I just no that if Sturridge was at Utd and Welbeck at Chelsea, there would be more hype about Sturridge than there is Welbeck currently.


I think Welbeck and Sturridge are pretty equal to be fair, and yeah I agree with you he should get a shot. Guarantee he will after Capello's gone don't you worry about that, the bloke doesn't have a clue
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00:21 Fri 7 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Suarez...my club FC Groningen took him from the slums in Uruguay. The diving/cheating is something just to learn there on the streets......everything is allowed to win/survive. During Suarez' first season here we got 16 penalty kicks in 34 matches....alot of them casued by a dive from Lui$. His class was already recognized at his young age though.
In the youtube movie below you see many goals and cheating....
At 6.54 min is absolutely class
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02:38 Fri 7 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
virt_slayer said:
Difference between Hernandez and Carroll? you won't see Hernandez smashing in a 30 yarder


Lets be honest, we're not gonna see Carroll smashing in any 30 yarders...
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17:45 Fri 7 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
No point saying who has the better players IMO. This is how it will work out.

Suarez will run rings around the entire united back 4.

I don't see Suarez as a striker, he plays just off Carroll when they play together, creating chances for himself and others with his trickery and vision. His finishing is in fact the only thing that lets him down at times, yet he is still world class, and would walk into any side in the world.

That might be the problem, when the vultures circle within 12 months. If he does go though, then like Torres he would demand a ridiculous fee and would fund our next world class player Doubt he would leave for a few years yet mind. We just need to win things to keep him!


Enrique will keep Nani quiet. Young will get the better of Kelly at times. (assuming Young plays left and Nani right)

Evra will be up against possibly Hederson who drifts inside anyway, and leaving a dodgey right back to struggle against Downing.

Lucas will once again have Uniteds midfield in his pocket, with Gerrarrd (if he plays) allowed to create havock.

Liverpool will win this if we defend well ourselves. United have a poor defence, and we will score goals when given the chances.

Edited at 14:52 Fri 07/10/11 (BST)
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18:13 Fri 7 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Your making it seem like Liverpool are the better team don't be silly

Let's see it from my point of view:

Suarez will be man handled by Uniteds back 4 he won't do anything special

Nani the proberbly most on form player as of yet, will be kept quiet by Enrique? Are you actually taking in what you are writing? Nani will be running up and down like he is not there

Young wont just get the better of kelly at times he will for proberbly 80 of the 90 minutes

Then Lucas won't have united midfield in his pocket he will do well, but you make it seem like this is a given match for Liverpool like theres no chance they can loose

Your playing the greatest team in England the second best in Europe and you think every player you got is going run circles around united?

Come on dude think about it.
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