That's true.
However, the reason this happens lies in history. White people never suffered under oppression, pretty much everyone else did.
That's why white people have to be a little more careful with what they say today. But yes, it's wrong no matter who is the target.

Lets just move back to footie eh?

Manchester United are top of the league again - as Britain's most hated club. The 19-time champions pulled in more almost a third of the total vote in a survey of fans. Chelsea - three-times Premier League champions - got 10% of the hate vote, with Arsenal just behind them with 9.3%.

You wouldn't think that judging by the manc love ins we have on this forum with all the Mancs, Si and Wood!

Suprised we are not in there tbh. I'm actually offended! Think we need to start winning trophies for everyone to hate us again, but then again look at Arsenal.

Edited at 17:46 Wed 19/10/11 (BST)

Where are we Mike? Post the 20 teams in order here will be good to see.

MANCHESTER United are top of the league again - as Britain's most hated club.

The 19-time champions pulled in more almost a third of the total vote in a survey of fans.

Chelsea - three-times Premier League champs - got 10% of the hate vote, with Arsenal just behind them with 9.3%.

Liverpool came fourth while big-spending Manchester City, who are currently top of the Premier League, were fifth.

But only just over 6% of supporters said a club's success was a key factor in forming their dislike.

The biggest reason was historical rivalry (21.5%) followed by the behaviour of players (14.6%) and the behaviour of fans (17.45%).

Other factors included geographical closeness to their own home club (11.45%), wealth (9.6%) and the manager's behaviour (6.7%).

The survey was carried out ahead of this weekend's top-of-the-table clash between Manchester United and Manchester City to see whether City's new-found Arab wealth had made them more unpopular than their successful neighbours.

A spokesman Ed Nicholson said: "We wanted to find out if Man City's millions have made them the most hated club, when typically United have held that position. We're definitely surprised City aren't higher up the table."

See we love to hate united

Where we just generally hate Liverpool

And on the fans base Liverpools = Awfull

They make less noise away than Arsenal who are shocking i'm sure there was more noise coming from the 17 villareal fans that went city yesterday

In all fairness though you would be more hatedif you were something special, i'm sure there's some countrys in Europe who are thinking 'Who are they' Then a voice at the back of the room quietly says 'Well many years ago they were amazing in this competition'

Win a few more titles get your name back on the map of football and you will be second once again

Thats actually a brilliant post Si i F'n love it :L

Everything mike says gets attacked lol

Looks like Torres is getting back to his best!

I've been doing some more thinking about racism so thought I'd share with you on a football thread?

Racism is brought upon people due to this goverment and other countries'.

Example being - My primary school, which would of been 12 years ago I attended it and there was maybe 5/6 asian girls in the entire school. Use to love being the star role in the productions we use to stage at christmas time, I was once a dragon and a very good one indeed! I did end up getting slayed though . Use to love a good ol' christmas dinner etc, and school then was fun.

Now, my little brother has just left that school and I would say 60% of people that attend the school are either asian, black, oriental or originate from another country, mostly Eastern European.

I dont think many of the 40% care that some of the children in the 60% cant speak English, or wear turbans, face veils etc...

But then Christmas nativitys get canceled, Religeous Education completely changes. No more christmas dinners or even celebrating christmas due to it being unfair on the other children.

Loads of other things that our goverment has prevented due to the 60%. Now its not the 60%'s fault its being changed as the goverment are in charge, although some of the 60% come to this country, complain or make demands which then makes them accountable.

Which I think, to actually make demands after claiming immigration due to "life indangerment" etc, is what annoys everyone.

And there you maybe right son!

Loved the Chelsea game tonight, super passing, Mierleleles played brilliant! Must learn to spell that chaps name!

Lampard was awesome as always, Torres was brilliant. Movement, dribbling, turn of foot and the two goals.

We created so many chances and just watched the highlights on ITV and im so disappointed! I watched that Champions league extra 2 weeks ago, and it showed everything from the Arsenal game with Olympikos and then when its Chelseas turn show the 5 goals.

So disgusting. We need a Chelsea lover in power somewhere Roman. Sick of all these Man Utd/Liverpool/Arsenal monkeys who make them look amazing.

Soon they will change Messi's face to Rooney and stick him in a United shirt and broadcast it as Rooney! Its so annoyingly bias.

Also must say, Messi tonight? Corrr! That run he had was incredible and the build up to Iniestas goal! Mind blowing!

Messi is far better than any other player in the world, past and present. C.Ronaldo is miles ahead of the rest past and present but still so far behind Messi in terms of ability.

Yeah, noticed that a myself a while back

People just love to hate me

Derry I told you that about Messi this time last year, and you said you preferred Ronaldo, or that they were on the same level or something.

You turncoat, you!

On another note, I'm actually quite glad that in this age of enlightenment, we are no longer celebrating the so called "virgin" birth of the Son of God.

Edited at 00:08 Thu 20/10/11 (BST)

But Messi this season has excelled again!

I think they will always be close in the sense of goals and assists due to Ronaldo being stronger phyisically and faster.

But Messi's touch, control, technique, dribbling, centre of gravity, agility and all those types of attributes are completely orgasmic! haha!

Luis Suarez increasingly looks like he will not face any charges from the Football Association unless Patrice Evra can produce witness statements to support his allegation that he was racially abused during Manchester United's 1-1 draw at Liverpool last weekend.

The FA is planning to send a delegate to Manchester to interview Evra, possibly on Thursday, now that he is back in the country following the Champions League tie against Otelul Galati.

However, the case may rest on whether any of Evra's team-mates can corroborate his accusation that Suarez repeatedly racially abused him. The Uruguayan has vehemently denied the allegation, with the support of his club, and the FA needs to determine whether it is simply one man's word against another's.

Evra had claimed on French TV that it happened "at least 10 times", but his case is undermined by the fact he did not bring the allegation to the attention of the referee, Andre Marriner, during the match.

Liverpool's belief is that if the case cannot be proved the FA should consider taking action against Evra on the grounds that it was a malicious allegation.

u cant really take any action against evra if it is one mans word for another in my eyes as we will never know tbh.

Agreed, although I really don't like the guy.
Don't they have cameras? Should be easy enough to see what they said.

Yep, Evra claims the cameras WILL be able to pick up what Suarez said.

^ Yet SKY have come out and said that they have scoured through the recordings and found nothing.

Sounds like Evra crying wolf to me!

Get on this Mich!

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/19350

No don't sign it!

For the simple reason I think there will be some stuff that you all want not to read to be honest...

What's the name of the guy you all love to hate as he wrote some stuff in a paper you all claimed to be 'Lies' what if they were actually true? Would you all go out and buy 1,000 copys of the sun to make up lost time from not owning 1?

End of day you can not force a company to release a document that is not for the public.

And on the other side Suarez is probably the type of player to Racially abuse somebody because he's dirty great football but scum lol but I do really like him my type of player haha

But on a serious note, it is only 1 mans word against another, and Evra is really shaken up about it and he should of gone to the ref mid game and said 'If he is racist 1 more time i'm going punch him' then he would of had more of a leg stand on after he did it lol

And Messi.... Is absolutly amazing he's unreal nobody can produce football like him, it's like he's a new prodigy he's amazing!!!

Top 3 current footballers for me are:

Messi - God!
Ronaldo - Can score just can't use the ball like messi!
Silva (Easily best player in the premiership about as good as Ronaldo)

I think Ronaldo is the most overrated player of today by miles.

I've seen him play quite a lot and every single time, he's been so average... He tries tricks and occasionally pulls them off, but the majority of the time he ends up getting tackled and making a fool of himself. Yes he's quick and he hits a mean free kick, but apart from that I think he's nothing special at all.

There's always been a lot of talk about "Who's better, Messi or Ronaldo?".. In my opinion that is the stupidest question anybody can ask...
It's like saying what has better graphics, a Nintendo 64 or a Playstation 3....

Rant over.

True, but his numbers are brilliant. He has scored tons of goals at every club he plays for.
118 goals in 292 appearances for Man Utd.
95 goals in 101 appearances for Real Madrid.
(wikipedia)

He did all this while playing beside excellent strikers. Those are astonishing numbers, he can carry a team for a whole season. Messi is better, but I wouldn't say Ronaldo is overrated.