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11:32 Thu 7 Jul 11 (BST) [Link]
Don't you watch Z! - True Long Island Story? Thats whats made Ryder so over. Much like The Miz, he has taken the internet (youtube and twitter, specifically) and made a name for himself leaving WWE no choice but to acknowledge his talent and popularity, hence them even recognising his self-imposed championship on NXT a couple of weeks ago. Ryder only ever wrestled with Hawkins in WWE.
Flair is actually a good comparison to ADR - he was the face of NWA/WCW for over a decade then came in to WWF and immediately went straight into the main events against Hogan for the title. It would be silly for Del Rio to do anything else, as 99% of wrestling fans see him as a world champion. Similarly to R-Truth - it just never looked right to see such a well known former world champ languishing in the midcard.
Flair is actually a good comparison to ADR - he was the face of NWA/WCW for over a decade then came in to WWF and immediately went straight into the main events against Hogan for the title. It would be silly for Del Rio to do anything else, as 99% of wrestling fans see him as a world champion. Similarly to R-Truth - it just never looked right to see such a well known former world champ languishing in the midcard.
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12:19 Thu 7 Jul 11 (BST) [Link]
well they have been wrestling as a tag team since 04 together mate they were a tag team way before they came to wwe........ i dont think truth will ever scale the heights he did in tna .. there is something missing the big name performers right now are not the same as the 90's we had austin angle triple h shawn michaels taker diesel the rock bret hart << all at some point bu all huge characters right now they are not the same my opinion obviously.
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12:24 Thu 7 Jul 11 (BST) [Link]
"well since the rocks baby left him he has found a new place to go its right at the end of jabroni lane in the smackdown hotel" <<< this is what we used to enjoy week in week out
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15:12 Thu 7 Jul 11 (BST) [Link]
In my opinion this is what needs to happen from now until next eyars wrestlemania ... punk needs to beat cena but MIZ wins the mitb .. cashes in on the same night so punk cant leave with title cos rumour mill says he ISNT signing a new contract and is definately leaving (could probably have something to do with his homophobic comments) Then cena to be out "indefinately" .... the rock needs to come and deal with the miz leading upto a rivalry where the rock beats miz for the title before next years wrestlemania therefore culminating in a championship match still at wrestlemania for cena and the rock .. anybody else agree on this or is it just me ?
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15:15 Thu 7 Jul 11 (BST) [Link]
I cant see The Rock having a match until wrestlemania really..
18:15 Thu 7 Jul 11 (BST) [Link]
Media are always blowing comments up (which really are nothing). I mean come on how many times do you call people gay? I'm not homophobic but I always call my pals gay, just being a lad.
02:03 Fri 8 Jul 11 (BST) [Link]
My bad on the Ryder/Hawkns team, I forgot he used to be Brett Matthews
It'll be interesting to see if the Broskis go after the tag belts now. They never impressed before, but maybe Ryders new found drive can make the difference.
It was Jabroni Drive - maybe thats where we differ. I never cared for the way the Rock made everything seem like a kids TV show with stupid things like that. They never seemed to have straight up wrestling matches anymore and just tried to be a copy of ECW, which worked to a degree if you hadn't been an ECW fan in the 90's, but if, like me, you were, there was nothing new. For that matter the Ladder Matches the Harts were having in the 80's way eclipsed anything WWE offered up until the MITB concept was introduced.
IMO over the next few months they need to get the title as far away from Cena and Rock as possible. Unlikely, as it looks good from a media promotion perspective to have the guy on the talk shows carrying the belt, but it would free up the title to be contested in a good actual wrestling match.
There will never be a better Wrestlemania for some of the undercard to "step up" than this one. With Rock/Cena locked, and HHH/Taker as 99% certain, those are by far the biggest matches, so there is plenty of room for a few to steal the show as others have done before them.
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It'll be interesting to see if the Broskis go after the tag belts now. They never impressed before, but maybe Ryders new found drive can make the difference.
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"well since the rocks baby left him he has found a new place to go its right at the end of jabroni lane in the smackdown hotel" <<< this is what we used to enjoy week in week out
It was Jabroni Drive - maybe thats where we differ. I never cared for the way the Rock made everything seem like a kids TV show with stupid things like that. They never seemed to have straight up wrestling matches anymore and just tried to be a copy of ECW, which worked to a degree if you hadn't been an ECW fan in the 90's, but if, like me, you were, there was nothing new. For that matter the Ladder Matches the Harts were having in the 80's way eclipsed anything WWE offered up until the MITB concept was introduced.
IMO over the next few months they need to get the title as far away from Cena and Rock as possible. Unlikely, as it looks good from a media promotion perspective to have the guy on the talk shows carrying the belt, but it would free up the title to be contested in a good actual wrestling match.
There will never be a better Wrestlemania for some of the undercard to "step up" than this one. With Rock/Cena locked, and HHH/Taker as 99% certain, those are by far the biggest matches, so there is plenty of room for a few to steal the show as others have done before them.
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02:09 Fri 8 Jul 11 (BST) [Link]
As far as I know, thats still the plan. I've not been aware of anything to the contrary.
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02:17 Fri 8 Jul 11 (BST) [Link]
Hopefully Punk does beat Cena, but can see the winner of MITB cashing in after, anyone but The Miz and ill be happy
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03:43 Fri 8 Jul 11 (BST) [Link]
Ive read somewhere taker wont fight triple h again But i could be wrong and the jabroni lane thing i actually listened to that shoot earlier ;)
22:22 Fri 8 Jul 11 (BST) [Link]
Even more horrifying watching it back - that segment is over 6 minutes long! Indeed it's possibly one of the shorter promo's of the time.
Compare that to today and there is a much hight percentage of actual wrestling, which is why I watch an enjoy
Edge would have been the no-brainer for Takers retirement match, but since thats no longer on the cards it explains the buildup they have given to HHH/Taker one more time. I just can;t see any other logical option other than Kane, which would be perfect in so many ways.
Speaking of that, what an impact! Well, I didnt pay much attention to the heavyweight title bits, but seeing RVD and Lynn in the ring together, along with the LONG overdue return of Jack Evans to wrestling TV made it a standout show.
Awesome lineup for Destination X this weekend now. RVD/Lynn wont be what it was all those years ago but will still me a must-watch for me. Similarly AJ/Daniels. They completely ruled the wrestling world in the early 2000's so no reason they won't be the show stealer again... Lets hop Joe destroys Kaz quicly and gets involved here again ASAP.
Show-stealer that is, if it weren't for what must be by miles the most anticipated PPV match this year in the X-Division contract match. Imagine - Jack Evans, Low-Ki, Austn Aries and Ion all in one match! Gonna be hard if not impossible to follow that.
Even more horrifying watching it back - that segment is over 6 minutes long! Indeed it's possibly one of the shorter promo's of the time.
Compare that to today and there is a much hight percentage of actual wrestling, which is why I watch an enjoy
Edge would have been the no-brainer for Takers retirement match, but since thats no longer on the cards it explains the buildup they have given to HHH/Taker one more time. I just can;t see any other logical option other than Kane, which would be perfect in so many ways.
Speaking of that, what an impact! Well, I didnt pay much attention to the heavyweight title bits, but seeing RVD and Lynn in the ring together, along with the LONG overdue return of Jack Evans to wrestling TV made it a standout show.
Awesome lineup for Destination X this weekend now. RVD/Lynn wont be what it was all those years ago but will still me a must-watch for me. Similarly AJ/Daniels. They completely ruled the wrestling world in the early 2000's so no reason they won't be the show stealer again... Lets hop Joe destroys Kaz quicly and gets involved here again ASAP.
Show-stealer that is, if it weren't for what must be by miles the most anticipated PPV match this year in the X-Division contract match. Imagine - Jack Evans, Low-Ki, Austn Aries and Ion all in one match! Gonna be hard if not impossible to follow that.
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02:59 Mon 11 Jul 11 (BST) [Link]
Low-ki was awesome before he just left ... the daniels/styles match the only way that could be better is with elix skipper (primetime) when he was involved he was another awesome one and being as they were a great trio would of been quite fitting really ... rvd and lynn were both x division before it was the x division so only fitting that i think that match has all the attributes to steal the show .... kane is definately the clever choice for takers last match i mean the only other thing that could possibly happen is make it a triple threat match with michales ..... and either mchaels or hhh win the match therefore although it is a loss .. it isnt a loss in a sense :S ? they have to OUTDO triple h and just michaels despite how big they are the greatest one would be austin but i really cant see it ALTHOUGH i did see an interview with austin stating he wants one more match .. all the bad blood with lesner and the talk of lesner/heyman in talks with wwe .. could be a possibility he goes out destroying him who knows
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15:20 Mon 11 Jul 11 (BST) [Link]
ty for all replyin to this new wrestling thread i assure it'll keep on going Gazza here WWE and TNA wrestling fan/reporter, I know im not posting results and news as such look back at the start of the thread i know i should be it got kinda hard following the shows Raw Smackdown and Impact but be aware im watching them when i can and will let you know any upcomin news regarding TNA: Destination X and WWE: Money in the Bank PPV's i'll be watchin Destination X this week too as well as Smackdown Raw and Impact let you all know of anything happening soon. Take care now. Gazza :)
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15:42 Mon 11 Jul 11 (BST) [Link]
Gaz if i am honest with you mate youhavent posted results but its been on because although me and spinner havent posted them as such we have in our long posts that we keep posting lol ... spinner knows his wrestling and im sure he can see that i know mine so thankfully its ok still :P
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19:49 Mon 11 Jul 11 (BST) [Link]
i didnt say you didnt i was just pointing out the fact that the thread seems to be made up of me and spinner talking wrestling lol
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