We are not taking it away from you... but if you notice... its only you Liverpool fans commenting on this and doing what Lpool always do.. make a big fuss about nothing.

You cant seriously expect everyone to be politically correct. So what a few fans chanted murderer? People that have no involvement and quite frankly dont want any involvement with Liverpool football club.

I think the FA and the media do things like this for this purpose. Reaction, & no team gives off a reaction like Liverpool fans. I think the people who enforce these minute silences rub their hands.

Do you think the SFA would impose a minutes silence for a Rangers v M'well Semi?

The tragedy that occred 23 years ago? 23 years in itself seems silly. Its hardly a significant number... it should be something the teams concerned should remember... close-nit. Its not something for Chelsea or Spurs to hold a minutes silence for. The players do it as they are professional, but paying public? You want them to hold silence for a minute to signify what? Respect for something quite small on a scale when its 23 years on.. I just dont think there was any need for it.

Health and safety is better now, policing is better, paramedics are on standby the whole shabang is now better because of the incident. The statements came out last year everyone got their peace of mind... and yet its Liverpool fans who are digging it all back up... and then they have the cheek to point the finger...

If I was a real victim of the incident I would be insensed by you lot speaking of it the way you do.

I dont think you have any right to say what can and cant be said about it.... but as soon as someone else speaks about it, theres this instant defense on the matter.

I mean well by my posts and I just speak it as I see it. I dont mean to offend anyone or even Liverpool FC. Sometimes the truth hurts.

Like when I hear Torres isnt worth 50m

I even cringe when I see Americans making a big deal about remembering 9/11.
Yeh it was a tragic incident, but they also need to move on..
In fact it's slightly worse for the Americans because without sounding too harsh, they kind of brought 9/11 on themselves.

Same goes for Hillsborough. I keep hearing "the families affected want justice for what happened", "they still don't know what happened".. How do they not know what happened?? Drunken Liverpool fans were idiotic resulting in the death of 96 people, there you go, now we don't need to discuss it any more do we??

Anyway that's all I have to say. I'm bored of talking about Liverpool over and over again. Let's talk about a more interesting club like Fulham or Aston Villa.

wowww, quite a statement. Tell that to the families of the victims who "brought it upon themselves". The clear implication is they deserved it. An Al-Qaedaesque statement to make.

I was more referring to the American government who are the ones that hold the big remembrance events. Generally when I say "Americans", I'm on about the government there. Should have probably made that clear.

But America as a country are responsible for way more killings of innocent people in countries like Iraq & Afghanistan, than the amount of people killed in 9/11 which was a retaliation attack.

Maybe if America weren't so greedy and murderous then they wouldn't have to fear being attacked by "terrorists".

So you're saying there is a justification for the killing of innocent civilians, yes?

No not at all. I'm just saying it's a little cringy watching them 12 years on making a huge deal about remembering what happened.

Do Americans think its alright to slaughter thousands upon thousands of innocent families across the middle east?? 9/11 was awful, but it's hard to feel sympathy for a country that has done far far worse to other countries.

Lets put it this way.. If you killed 2 of my family members, and I then went and killed one of your family members, obviously we're both in the wrong for killing, but you're slightly worse for killing 2 than I am for killing 1.

Fair enough. Saying they brought it upon themselves, whether it's the government or the people implies that it's justified and deserved.

Maybe one should look at the sum of what the US has done over the years. Where would the world be without their actions in World War I and II? Where would Europe be without the unprecedented and never since repeated amounts of money they gave Europe for free to rebuild?
People like to forget about the good and focus on the bad (of which the US has done quite a lot, no doubt).

No, we would both be murderers.

Can we please keep this to the topic of the thread...

Thanks.

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You can hardly use the war as a indication of America doing good.. They came in right at the end to take all of the credit.
And all of that money you gave to aid Britain, making us pay back every last penny (I'm sure we only just finished paying that back in early 2000's).

But anyway, let's get back on topic before Budwesier starts threatening to unleash his almighty power upon us.

1917 and 1941 were the end? hmm...

If you want to compare British and US histories, the Americans will probably come out looking like sweet angels

Careful! Budweiser takes his moderating very seriously!

lol true, but does he really want me to create a new thread for this?? We could just post about 2-3 times more each and then we'll be done as well lol.

Nothing more annoying than people talking nonsense and passing it off as fact. The past two pages are full of it. It hurts my eyessss!

just got to laugh at this!

hahaha

This never happened. This is what we mean by Justice. Still Liverpool fans are being blamed, still the S*n lies are being repeated. The official report into the disaster cleared ALL Liverpool fans of any wrongdoing.

Disgraceful.

In a stadium that wasn't at capacity there is nobody to blame for a crush than the police.

The families have had to deal with the police covering up what happened, tapes going "missing" of police opening a gate when they said that fans had "stormed the gate"

The police killed 96 people with their contempt and carelessness and covered it up to save their necks.

The truth will come out eventually.

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