What I liked about the Luis goal was that it followed 2 very nice goals previously.

As a package one of the best hatricks I've ever seen. Not seen Torres' but I'm going to put it down to Paddy Kenny being less than useless! A knew low in his career that though.

Don't give me that, you won't be disappointed even in the slightest if you don't finish 4th? Most people would be, even if you are overachieving as it is. And nah, it was your achievement not losing to us at SDA, but I suppose we did have 10 men. What happened to Hatem 'world's greatest' Ben Arfa yesterday btw?



That's annoying me, it should be 'show'...

Obviously it would be great getting CL football, but trust me nobody is really expecting it here, so if we get it, great, if not, we've still had an amazing season.. It's not a big deal..

2nd half of us vs you lot we absolutely dominated you... Even before Sausage Onion got sent off we were still on the front foot.. Ba was in top form, and missed a penalty.. If he had scored that pen, we would have won the game. Ben Arfa ran circles around your defence like they were none existent. Only reason we only managed one goal was because you had your whole team in your own box.

As for Ben Arfa yesterday, if you watched the game, he was only good from 60-70 mintues, and then got subbed. It wasn't just him that was awful for the majority, half the team were. The only players that put in any effort were Santon, Coloccini, Cisse & Krul.

Dominating isn't having the majority of possession, you didn't really have any meaningful chances before Sessegnon got sent off, we had by far the best chance before that which was Krul's save against McClean. Then what did you expect us to do with a 1-0 lead away from home with 10 men, roll over and let you win?

And I dunno I know Cisse hit the bar and post, but I heard yesterday (not from Sunderland fans before you say) that Ben Arfa had a pretty poor game yesterday.

I know he had a bad game I've already said that.

And no matter what you say about how you think the Newcastle v Sunderland game went, at the end of the day, getting a draw at SJP is the biggest achievement for Sunderland this season.. What else have you done that's better than that?? You lot would do anything to see your team beat Newcastle away, and getting a draw is the next best thing.

Sunderland always have and always will live in the shadows of Newcastle, and that's just how it is whether you like it or not, which is why your fans are so obsessed with us. It's not our fault that our city, football club, supporters, economy, people, culture, etc, etc... is better than Sunderlands.
I'm surprised it's even classed as a city, I swear it's smaller than Gateshead is...

No point in saying any of that to me me, I don't live in Sunderland, just have family from there.

And it always makes me cringe when Newcastle supporters say we're in their shadow. How exactly is this? You have won next to nothing, the same as us, you were obviously better than us for a period of time, but I didn't realise records only began post-1992. And also have we been in your shadow for the 3 seasons before this?

I think 4 points against Man City is a pretty good achievement, and finishing where we are now considering how we started the season. I reckon we'll win against you lot next season, get some decent players in the transfer window to suit a counter attacking team and a striker and we'll be alright, MON has experience of big games and the Europa League/CL will take its toll on you.

1. Newcastle overlooks Sunderland in every department.
2. Yes, the 3 seasons before this you were still in our shadow. I said you've always have been in our shadow and always will be.
3. Sunderland care more about drawing with Newcastle at SJP than they do about beating Man City.
4. I didn't know you could look into the future. You say as long as you buy some new players you'll beat us next season? Are you forgetting the fact that we will also be buying players? Not to mention with our current scouting system, money to spend, and the quality of players you attract by finishing 6th+ and getting Europa, our players that we do buy will no doubt be better than whoever you sign.

There's not much point in debating this because it's general knowledge that Newcastle is better in every single way than Sunderland.

No point in really arguing with you because you're so deluded, you say we're always in your shadow and you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back it up. You then say Newcastle are better in every single way, how so?

We don't care more about drawing against you, I know that's what Newcastle fans like to think then you have the nerve to call US obsessed.

And no I didn't mean we will beat you because of the players we sign, I was meant to say we'll be alright next season in general but I didn't really make it clear.

Roy Hodgson approached to be new England manager.

Well thats good.

Another manager who's won nigh no nothing in his managerial life.

Capello won lots in his career

I already mentioned why we're better than you.
"our city, football club, supporters, economy, people, culture, etc, etc... is better than Sunderlands". What evidence do I need?? It's common knowledge. If you disagree, then post evidence as to why Sunderland aren't in our shadow??
You said yourself you don't live up here so how on earth would you know anyway lol.

And you'll be alright next season? Alright for Sunderland is not getting relegated with a record low points total, so yeh I agree, if you're lucky you might finish top 10.

And yeh Sunderland fans are obsessed. I check the SMB for a few laughs every now and then, because everytime I check, 90% of their threads are related to Newcastle in one way or another. Heck even yesterday SMB had a match day thread for Newcastle vs Wigan lmao...

Yep and he was one of the best England managers of modern time.

Just not very good with the media unfortunately. They don't like that in England.

Don't have much of a problem with Roy but maybe i'm clutching at straws..he struggled at Liverpool, can he handle the big name players? (Ok, i now expect a barrage of abuse now after that comment but meh (

'Arry is still my choice. But to be honest. It's not the manager that needs changing for us to do well in an International Tournament. It's pretty much everything..

U reds!!!!!

come on forest

Capello with a 67 win %. Roy has never had that anywhere.

I sometimes wonder what it is the FA are thinking.

Obviously in this case they want a cheap yes man. Woy is out of contract in the summer so they won't have to pay compensation and they obviously know we have no chance.

That is all it can be.

Mmm, dont think Roy is good enough on the basis, he doesnt mean easy teams.

Its the games England should win but dont that does us. U need to motivate and give the players the right attitude, install determination and motivation against the USA's, bcoz the players will be up for it against the better teams.

I dont think England have a good chance of success, I dont think England are in the top 8 teams, nationally. But I think we have the ability to surprise... but just not with Roy. But you can see why, he is old, coming to the end of his career, he just wants the big pension check. No manager in their right mind will ever step into England because the media is disgusting. It will hack/investigate their private life, inspect all their families history and force them out.

England dont deserve success. Its a disgusting country.


On a better note, 6-1 to the Chels! 5 goals gained and a big game next with Newcastle.

However I'm sad to say, I dont think we are going to catch 4th.

Spurs play Bolton, Villa & Fulham. None of them will nick a point of Spurs. Bolton away maybe, but Villa at home and then Fulham (chelseas closest rival) are crap away.

And then the Gunners have Norwich and West Brom.

Meanwhile Chelsea (who have exceeded everyones expectations to the fullest!) have Newcastle at home, Liverpool in a final, Liverpool at Anfield, Blackburn and then Munich!

But

Chelsea V Newcastle 2nd
Chelsea V Liverpool 5th (final
Liverpool v Chelsea 8th

You won't get 4th unless you let us win the FA Cup.

Otherwise your players will be celebrating and we will be out for revenge.

Best all round if you let us win that one, we'll be on the drink as it will be our season over and you'll get to hammer us.

Don't be greedy and let us winnn!

On the FA Cup final itself, I'm really not confident. Chelsea are on a great run at the moment, players bang in form and playing for the manager. I've just got a bad feeling Drogba or that camp looking fella will score against us, and if they don't Lumpard will!

Hopefully the camp looking fellas hatrick will will persuade Di Matteo to play them both, but I doubt he will go down that route.

Haha. I certainly feel that our run has inspired the whole team. Made them think anything is possible.

Alan Smith the stupid bloke was saying against QPR... "No Di Matteo will already know his final team against Munich, there are no places to play for" Is he stupid?

We had Bosingwa and Sam Hutchinson playing centre back? We are swamped with injuries and suspensions!

I think its clear to see that because they are inspired, they are also trying to get in that Champions League final team.

I'm glad now Chelsea have an element of fear about them again. City go through a bad patch and Wolves are suddenly given them a hard game. United look like a 5 year old girl with pom poms and Wigan are turning them over like Bilbao...

Too many games Chelsea just havent been scaring the Swanseas, Norwichs & Fulhams!

I think Mike, I would let Liverpool win the FA Cup 1-0 if Chelsea bat you 4-0 at Anfield and we get 4th spot and win the Champions League for good measure

However, I think we can beat Munich without 4 key players... so I dont think we need 4th so im not sure if we should let Liverpool take it! lol.

Still cant believe we are in the FA cup and CL final! Eventful season...

This is why I'm going to stop arguing with you, I could probably find a 10 year old to have a more intellegent argument.



Funny thing is though, you've been on the SMB enough to know that, hypocrite.

Wait a sec lol