Depends on the game type really but shouldn't be more than 1 I should imagine

Double in a tournament though, right?

Nice one Nick, I'm suprised no ones gone mental about it yet!

Yes, newbie protection is still in place.



It's a fair comment - especially if there are significant amount of people resetting, but this might not be the case. However, remember everyone is in the same boat here - with the same chance to meet someone who has reset. It's annoying but as I said in the first post it is very wrong to design the game for this.

If there is a problem a lot of top rankers drop out of tournaments there is a couple of minor changes that may encourage people back. (1) The rankings in tournaments currently have a winning bonus that can be increased slightly (I have just noticed it's negligible for top ranked users). (2) The points in play can be reduced for normal ranked games.

or a slighly better idea, keep the tournaments friendly and you can still have tournapoints, then you could put the tournament rank as the normal rank (as it used to be unless you plan on making it harder to rank, also would put people on their true rank much quicker) then people can't complain about resetters and newbies

there was an idea by chris on pool about a ranking system where if you played a newbie you wouldn't gain/lose anything but the newbie would gain/lose then the newbie can lose tag faster while top players can enjoy tournaments without fake newbies.

Are you suggesting that you could lower the points available for a win on normal ranked games?

Yes, it's an option.

I think increasing the win bonus would be the better option though. So long as, on average, the win bonus is equal (or slightly greater) than the amounts lost to those resetters.

The whole goal recently has been to increase the importance of the tournaments!



That is a good idea and something like this can still be added.

This would be good, but if you were to do this, I would suggest only enabling it for tournaments, as normal ranked games you can avoid playing newbies. I think this solution would satisfy everyone to be honest, as people who have reset aren't affecting other users rank as severely.

i agree with awarding ranking points for playing in tournaments but not taking them away.

any other ranking event played in any sport / game in the world yo dont get minus points for losing.

in ordinary ranked games - yes - otherwise we would have 1,000,000 virts but in tourneys - no

that means its only ranking points awarded for winning tournaments - OMG - doesnt that happen everywhere!!!!

lol if you dont take points away then all the best players that play tournis would be maxed out in no time

And that would destroy the whole point of the current ranking system. Why then would anyone in their right mind play normal ranked games when they can enter tournaments and not lose any, and only gain?

i dont think he thought it through. tournis would be jam packed lol

really??? - you should read previous posts thoroughly before posting - nothing would destroy the current system - and if you read my post, i said awarded for winning tournaments - not winning matches

ie

1st - 10 ranking points
2nd - 7 ranking points

etc etc

do away with points per match.

there a good players on here that dont enter tournaments because they lose ranking points per match

there are players who only enter tournaments because of ranking points per match

so do the ranking points alongside tournapoints

more competitive tourneys because the best players are entering

but lesser souls like myself still enter because

1. Experience of playing the better players who would never dream of playing you in ordinary ranked games

2. The chance of getting some ranking points by doing well

Isn't that how the real game of snooker works??

can always limit the number to 64 / 128

So if someone was on 991 ranking points and gained 10 bonus, thus putting them on 1001 ranking points, which makes a mockery of the current system as it's impossible to achieve this.

It's irrelevant how ranking points work in real snooker, as the format is completely different to an online game.

really - if they won the tournament thay can still only go to the maximum allowed - just as if they had reached it naturally!!!!

also - how many tournments do the really big guns enter on here...

is that what Nick is not trying to do - or maybe I misunderstood his point of getting more players playing....

how many times in "normal" ranked games would a "big gun" play a "newbie" - very little....

why deny players the chance of playing the best??

but why penalise players who get duped into playing a "fake" newbie in a tournament....

rules for all - top 8 finishers get ranking points - the rest dont - if you reach 999 and are number 1 - and you want to stay there - you will still enter the tournaments to stop others reaching the same position - simple i thought.

do you not receive ranking points for each match you win atm - yes - can you increase 10 ranking points for winning a tournament atm - yes - dont see where your argument lies?

Edited at 20:44 Thu 12/01/12 (GMT)

send m_wood a message im sure he wont say no if you wana play a big gun lol

didnt say them all - but when you go to play a game and all are 800+ to enter - you cant play them

in a tourney they have to play you

thats how you improve

I don't think you understand how the ranking system works at all. It's not as simple as it seems, as there newbie and edge modification which comes into the basic system in place.

http://www.funkysnooker.com/help#rankings

I don't get why the ranking system needs an overhaul for no reason at all? It works just about perfectly as it is.