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adam_147
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01:53 Mon 29 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
@Seb
1) makes sense. I can do that easy enough. What happens to opponents rank when they play them though? Just ignored?
Yes, it gets ignored at first and at the end of the season (or the first go-around), the games get included with the newly acquired rank for the new clan, that you've just learned from those first games. So a "ghost run" to get a ranking. Then use that ranking and run the games for real.

Only problem with that is, I then go back and do rankings for fixture 1 with the new ranking, which would give their opponents a different rank to the one they actually had going into fixture 2. I would have to redo the whole season...
whocares8x8
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01:54 Mon 29 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
ah right. it doesn't do it automatically i see. Yeah that makes it more difficult. I'll think some more lol
adam_147
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01:57 Mon 29 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Does it 1 fixture at a time. Wouldn't take me long to enter in a season's results, all i have to type is e.g.

DC
36
AM
24

and it does it. If I throw a while loop in and just keep running it I could do a season in about 2 minutes probably.

Missed a question out:

5) Should there be a multiplier for cup (like there is for orig etc in player rankings)?

yes/no.
whocares8x8
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02:13 Mon 29 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Yeah, I had in mind something similar to the results spreadsheet we use, where it updates the table automatically if you change an earlier result.
If it's easy to do, then I think that would be the most accurate way.

5) Yes. I'm thinking of Allstarz here who have reached the Cup Final several times in the last few seasons. Not sure whether that would be reflected in the ranking without a multiplier.
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12:25 Mon 29 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Like the idea but feel I don't reaally have much input on this just yet so will see how the discussion goes for abit.
sarahh
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12:35 Mon 29 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
i havent a clue what your all going on about , looks very complicated , way over my head so i just leave you brainy people to it
mich
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12:49 Mon 29 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
I like the idea of clan rankings...

That's about all I understood though, can you explain it in simple talk please? Failing that... Yeah looks like a good idea.
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12:55 Mon 29 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Haha I was thinking the same I got lost half way through Adams First post.lol
whocares8x8
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13:27 Mon 29 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
In VERY simple terms, it's a ranking system for clans that's similar to funky. So if a clan with a high ranking loses a league fixture to a clan with a low ranking, it will lose a bunch of points, while the low clan wins a lot of points.
It's based on the score of each league and cup game. This way, we'll have a long-term ranking of clans. It will not replace how each season works- it will just run along the side.

adam is asking about the bonuses that should go into the ranking for different types of fixtures, for achievements, etc.
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13:55 Mon 29 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
oh yer i get ya know..

still a good idea if it can be kepted running..
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15:31 Mon 29 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Doesn't bother me
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18:33 Mon 29 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Leave it to the runners..they do a great job anyway. so more ideas thrown up by them will only inprove things im sure.
dgeneratio
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11:42 Tue 30 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
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12:34 Tue 30 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Yeah i don't mind this whole thing, might be better off this way.
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15:03 Tue 30 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
oh yer i get ya know..

still a good idea if it can be kepted running..


Inventing new words Davey? Kepted???????
dgeneratio
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17:17 Tue 30 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
It writes to a csv file, if you have dropbox or something I can just upload the Excel file when I'm done and you can do what you like with it.

I don't have dropbox unfortunately and i guess it doesn't work on google docs? if it does does a CSV File show if you put it in an HTML link?

as i was planning to put HTML link into weebly and it would autosave much like the clan league tables but if that can't be done then how can we show people?
dgeneratio
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17:19 Tue 30 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
5) Yes. I'm thinking of Allstarz here who have reached the Cup Final several times in the last few seasons. Not sure whether that would be reflected in the ranking without a multiplier.

yeah consistency should be rewarded, could implement the bonus system from tournaments?
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17:57 Tue 30 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
oh yer i get ya know..

still a good idea if it can be kepted running..


Inventing new words Davey? Kepted???????


Always trying to invent summit.
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11:02 Wed 31 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
oh yer i get ya know..

still a good idea if it can be kepted running..


Inventing new words Davey? Kepted???????


Always trying to invent summit.
Try to patent anything u can!
whocares8x8
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19:35 Wed 31 Oct 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
This is the schedule we're looking at currently. I want the transfer window to also be Christmas/New Years break, which means it will be about 9-10 days long. In order to avoid the season going 5 months, we've included a couple of rather busy fixture sets.

If you have suggestions to improve this schedule, please post here!!!

Fixture Set One: (8 Nov - 21 Nov)
- League Fixture 1
- League Fixture 2

Fixture Set Two: (22 Nov - 5 Dec)
- League Fixture 3
- League Fixture 4
- Cup Quarterfinals

Fixture Set Three: (6 Dec - 19 Dec)
- League Fixture 5
- League Fixture 6

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Transfer Window (20 Dec - 30 Dec)
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Fixture Set Four: (31 Dec - 13 Jan)
- League Fixture 7
- League Fixture 8

Fixture Set Five (14 Jan - 27 Jan):
- League Fixture 9
- League Fixture 10
- Cup Semifinals

Fixture Set Six (28 Jan - 10 Feb):
- League Fixture 11
- League Fixture 12
- Plate Semifinals

Fixture Set Seven (11 Feb - 24 Feb):
- League Fixture 13
- League Fixture 14
- Cup and Plate Final
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