^Yes, that's a problem.
I'm thinking either set times up on weekends (last season there were 6 killer games per fixture set). So it would look something like this:
Saturday:
D&C vs Dominatrix (6 pm)
Black Ballers vs Anger (8 pm)
Noobs vs Allstarz (10 pm)
Sunday:
Black Ballers vs Allstarz (6 pm)
D&C vs Noobs (8 pm)
Anger vs Dominatrix (10 pm)

or it would look like this:
Tuesday 7pm: D&C vs Dominatrix
Wednesday 8pm: Black Ballers vs Anger
Thursday 9pm: Noobs vs Allstarz
Friday 10pm: Black Ballers vs Allstarz
Saturday 10pm: D&C vs Noobs
Sunday 9pm: Anger vs Dominatrix

The teams rotate in each fixture so everyone gets an even share of each time slot. What do you think?

So if we have them set times does that mean that if we see 3 on before the set date we can still play it or does it have to be on that day/time.

Yeah i took that overboard a bit cutting edge apologise! I just got told to do killer and then got dropped if someone else came on

That should be fine if both agree. But afterwards probably wouldn't work, because then we don't have a default time for that game.

I'm thinking you would also be able to change the time if both agree and you post it. We would all work on deciding the times together beforehand, but I want to keep it a wide range so that everyone can play at some point in the season (if we do really go through with this).

How many killer defaults was there last season.

0 as far as i can see..

So why change it from how it is now..

Because there's a trend with not getting them done and leaving them until the very end. In the first season, we rarely had a game go to the default time. Mabye 1 or 2 in the entire season.
Last season we had one or more pretty much every week.
That suggests that people are not making the effort to get them played but rather leaving them for a fixed time so they don't have to organize. The logical step would be to make them all fixed times then.

But if enough people like it the way it is now, we can keep going with that as well. Need more comments from everyone.

I agree here with Dave(must be a first time for anyone agreeing with him)

All those times above you are eliminating one of our players(etarvt) as he doesn't play weekends and he is offline around 5pm(GMT) as Belgium are one hour infront so he is unavailable to play the other time slots during the week.

What you could add to the rules is if so Black Ballers see 3 AM online and they refuse to play because they aint got there strongest online(not likely as there poop ) you could deduct them points or something.

Surely this will make clans go with the three people that are online and not wait for their strongest 3 player to come online tto play the killer game.

Just an idea but probably wont be liked

I'd say you have a set time for both killers as there will be 2, 1 for each fixture.
There's a 2 week deadline for the whole games in 2 fixtures so maybe the killers have a default time once a week if you read me

Why do you need default times at all?

If there is no default time the clans won't refuse to play the game because their strongest players are not online as if the game is not played in the end of the fixture the result will go to the other team.

Because when it goes to a default then the captain isn't going to say "Oh we refused to play it because our strongest players weren't on". Instead they will come up with some other excuse!

Also if you have a set time before 5pm then you will just end up with loads of 1v1 and 2v2 as most clans rarely have 3 on during the day as people have jobs, college/uni, school etc.

What about if the clan was given a day that it had to be played, but like starting 2-3 days after fixture release, so say the fixture was released on Monday 4th March 2013 and looked like this:

Thursday 7th March: D&C vs Dominatrix
Friday 8th March: Black Ballers vs Anger
Monday 9th March: Noobs vs Allstarz

It could then be up to the Captains to communicate with their Clan and the opposing Captain (who has spoken to their clan) and work out their own time, so long as the fixture is played that day. This way, both clans can establish which players will be available to them on a given day; whatever time is agreed. I also left out weekends as one clan may have the advantage over another, if says all of one clans "best" players worked every weekend, but this is just down to whether seb would think this is an issue atall.

Furthermore, it could be an option that the clans could actually agree that there is another day and time that would be perfect and ask seb if they could switch to a different day with the proviso of if it isnt played on that day at that rough time, a pre-agreed default would be the score.

Methodology for working out the default could possibly be done on where said clans are in the current league and/or their league and cup finish from the last season.

Obviously, there are probably flaws in this somewhere, but what are your views on this people?

Don't see a problem with Killer to be honest, if it defaults it defaults. If one clan refuses to play all the time when they could have then it should be reflected in the default score..

Having a default time it starts also can create problems. Say for example the majority of players for 1 clan can't make the default time on a regular basis. Other clan can just refuse to play and leave it to last minute..

and regarding the above post. A default should never be worked out with playing ability in mind. What if a top player put no effort in and their opponent chased them, sent messages and made themselves available throughout the fixture. But oh he's playing someone from the top clan in the league so he shouldn't get the default because he put all the effort in and would probably get thrashed if the game was played anyway...

Your second point works the other way round in the current system though. A worse player gets drawn against a top one, sends messages etc but conveniently never manages to get the game done. They get a 3-3 default or something which is far more than they would have got from playing.

Still deserve more than 3 with the effort regardless on opponents ability. If they wanna be idiots and never play what gives them the 3, pfft stupid!

P.S rant over

What if they don't end up playing? How do we do defaults?

Because we need to have a system in place for when games don't get played. It's impossible for the default team to do a default for killer like they do for 1v1 games, because there are too many players and variables involved. So we do it based on who shows up at the predetermined time.

Yes, but they wouldn't say that, would they? They would say they have no time right now...

That's why the teams would rotate the default times each set.

The times would vary from between 6pm and 10pm GMT, so most if not all should be able to arrange with more than a week's notice and weekends in play.
Remember that many are already playing their games at the current default time!

I agree with the set times, and captains agreeing on a set time, if the fixed times don't work out as planned.

As usual, Gather the evidence of willingness to play etc etc and determine the result from those facts. Point is, that where they are given the choice of following the guidline date, or the clan captains agreeing a different day and rough time with you, The game should be played. if the day given is not good either clan, then they run a new date and rough time by you with certain fair and realistic default results pre-arranged between you and the two clan leaders, IF the game is not played on the default date and time with both or 1 of the clans not showing the willingness to get the game played, after their own default deadline date. OR having the lack of players for a time they set up and then failed to supply the man power, despite having ample time to talk to the clan..

This is why the default would be pre-arranged and agreed with seb if they cant make the time they said they could both do, if it were to vary from the Set day given. say for example, Noobs vs TD was scheduled for a tuesday, but the captains said and agreed that Friday at 8pm would be better for both clans. they would ask Seb. Given that TD are better than noobs,(no offence intended) then the default would be 4-2 if Noobs failed to abide by the custom date, and 3-3 if TD fail to abide. Hoping you can follow that

ok, so another idea, the obvious problem i can see is that no team wants their worst players to play in the clan killer. Generally speaking each clan has 14-18 players right? so how about, at the start of the season, all captains must submit a list of 9 players from their clan which they would wish to play clan killer. That way, the captains get some say in how strong their line-up is and there is a greater chance of 3 of these 9 being available for both teams on any given day, rather than the clan, holding out for there 3 "best". If any 3 of the 9 players are available to play and the killer game does not get played, and someone sees this and reports it to seb, then both clans could receive some sort of punishment, such as a 0-0 scoreline, or maybe a 5 point deduction or something like that, with the only exception being if one of the 3 players is actually playing another clan match at the time, which can be backed up with evidence.

If such an occasion as a deactivated account or a playing retiring as you will, then a player may be subbed in for the loss of player. Furthermore, the list may freely be chopped and changed as the Transfer period comes to an end.

I really think we are talking about something that i dont really see as a problem.. all killer games were played last season even if they were played on deadline day it dont matter they were still played..

If it ain't broke, don't fix it