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02:19 Mon 17 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
For record all it took was one facebook message to Lyle and he came straight online, easy as that
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02:19 Mon 17 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
So your doing it so you look like you are gunna help the "little" clan LMAO
Do me a favor and just don't bother
Do me a favor and just don't bother
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02:20 Mon 17 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
Finished?
Do what ya like James, just make sure you do it to keep the "bigger" clan happy and not bother about the so called "little" clans
Finished?
02:20 Mon 17 Jun 13 (BST) [Link] The way defaults work has been the same for many seasons now.
You must show effort to get points on default. Activity by playing does not mean you're actually interested in playing a clan game. For example, scobansco used to play in clans. He was one of the most active players on here, but NEVER made an effort to play his clan games.
Therefore, if one player is offline throughout, that only means his side get 0 points. The opponent must show effort to gain points. Usually about two messages and normal activity (or a post here and there) are enough for the full points, assuming the other guy stays offline.
Of course you deserve the full points as your opponent aint even been online James
You must show effort to get points on default. Activity by playing does not mean you're actually interested in playing a clan game. For example, scobansco used to play in clans. He was one of the most active players on here, but NEVER made an effort to play his clan games.
Therefore, if one player is offline throughout, that only means his side get 0 points. The opponent must show effort to gain points. Usually about two messages and normal activity (or a post here and there) are enough for the full points, assuming the other guy stays offline.
02:21 Mon 17 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
I'm not sure what this has to do with "bigger" clans as you call them. I have never restricted who captains are allowed to put in their lineup and never will. That is completely up to them and taken care of by defaults.
02:21 Mon 17 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
whats your problem with me Dan?
First of all you try and bully me into subbing in our fixture then all this big clan business
whats the deal?
First of all you try and bully me into subbing in our fixture then all this big clan business
whats the deal?
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02:22 Mon 17 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
Also, interestingly enough after 15 days of being offline, I had no messages from my opponents. 14 days the fixtures had been out so no excuses from your clan members either although I accept it's my fault for the fixture not getting done.
Of course you deserve the full points as your opponent aint even been online James
If i put someone in my team that had been offline ages to play it tactically you would either change rules then or tell me in message he as been offline too long change the player to another.
As its one of the so called "bigger" clans its alright to put in a player that as been offline for an age its alright as you don't wanna cross the big team as they might kick off at you
If i put someone in my team that had been offline ages to play it tactically you would either change rules then or tell me in message he as been offline too long change the player to another.
As its one of the so called "bigger" clans its alright to put in a player that as been offline for an age its alright as you don't wanna cross the big team as they might kick off at you
Also, interestingly enough after 15 days of being offline, I had no messages from my opponents. 14 days the fixtures had been out so no excuses from your clan members either although I accept it's my fault for the fixture not getting done.
02:24 Mon 17 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
^They have you in the upcoming fixture, not the old one.
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02:24 Mon 17 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
Lol.
Still applies to my previous fixture however
^They have you in the upcoming fixture, not the old one.
Lol.
Still applies to my previous fixture however
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22:08 Mon 17 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
Is there any point in sending in a teamsheet if teams are going to make a swap within the first day of release?
I suggest if this is going to happen you go with the pool rules of no swaps/subs(unless time zone difference comes into play) for the first few days or even the first week of the fixture.
I suggest if this is going to happen you go with the pool rules of no swaps/subs(unless time zone difference comes into play) for the first few days or even the first week of the fixture.
22:13 Mon 17 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
I'm assuming this having a go at us.
1. the fixture swap in carom can't be avoided. Monday - Monday Etarvt couldn't play. Tuesday - Friday I couldn't play. Sat/Sun Etarvt can't play weekends. I have to make the swap in the first week because I can't play in the second week and I only found out after the fixtures were released that etarvt was away.
2. The second sub was because the nature of the fixtures on here means that people can end up playing the same people over and over. It was suggested to me that making a swap could mean people got to play different players. You have to remember that the clan league is a fun thing, not a matter of life and death. No-one wants the same opponent over and over, the point of the league is that it's a good chance to play people you might not play normally.
1. the fixture swap in carom can't be avoided. Monday - Monday Etarvt couldn't play. Tuesday - Friday I couldn't play. Sat/Sun Etarvt can't play weekends. I have to make the swap in the first week because I can't play in the second week and I only found out after the fixtures were released that etarvt was away.
2. The second sub was because the nature of the fixtures on here means that people can end up playing the same people over and over. It was suggested to me that making a swap could mean people got to play different players. You have to remember that the clan league is a fun thing, not a matter of life and death. No-one wants the same opponent over and over, the point of the league is that it's a good chance to play people you might not play normally.
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22:23 Mon 17 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
Nothing against the first swap Adam as i agreed to letting you do the swap as holidays are crossing there so there is less chance of getting the game played.
You pick your strongest players you have got at the time to play in there strongest type right? So players are going to meet more than once in a season if they play a certain type more than another one.
It aint really hard to guess BB's best players and the game type they are going to play in, as it would be stupid of me to put etarvt in Arcade and zantetsukenz in Carom as they aren't there favourite game types at all.
You pick your strongest players you have got at the time to play in there strongest type right? So players are going to meet more than once in a season if they play a certain type more than another one.
It aint really hard to guess BB's best players and the game type they are going to play in, as it would be stupid of me to put etarvt in Arcade and zantetsukenz in Carom as they aren't there favourite game types at all.
22:36 Mon 17 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
Of course, but when you have players who are equally good in 2 types, say i_am_blessed for us who is equally good in power and reg, it doesn't affect anyone if I make the swap so that he can play a different fixture than last time.
Power is the main problem, the other game types there is a chance that you will get the other fixture (as there are 2) but if you stick to the same power players then they will meet again. As I had a different power player available, it made sense to switch so that we could have a different fixture.
Power is the main problem, the other game types there is a chance that you will get the other fixture (as there are 2) but if you stick to the same power players then they will meet again. As I had a different power player available, it made sense to switch so that we could have a different fixture.
02:09 Tue 18 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
I do take a look at early subs to see if the system is being abused to set up the opponents, but in this case, there's no problem. If I did suspect that one team systematically sends in teamsheets that will be altered once the opponents are known, I'd have to think of something.
03:14 Tue 18 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
Adam swapped HIS players not yours so i don't see your argument here.
Not everyone are placed in their strongest modes all the time though.
Edit: Read Total Dom thread and seems Tyler is bored of playing the same opponent so presented the idea of the swap, It was his Captain who chose to Swap.
If Tyler wanted Swap to play an easier opponent (like on Pool) i wouldn't have been happy about it.
Fact remains though he didn't swap your players, just swapped his.
Edited at 00:43 Tue 18/06/13 (BST)
Nothing against the first swap Adam as i agreed to letting you do the swap as holidays are crossing there so there is less chance of getting the game played.
You pick your strongest players you have got at the time to play in there strongest type right? So players are going to meet more than once in a season if they play a certain type more than another one.
It aint really hard to guess BB's best players and the game type they are going to play in, as it would be stupid of me to put etarvt in Arcade and zantetsukenz in Carom as they aren't there favourite game types at all.
You pick your strongest players you have got at the time to play in there strongest type right? So players are going to meet more than once in a season if they play a certain type more than another one.
It aint really hard to guess BB's best players and the game type they are going to play in, as it would be stupid of me to put etarvt in Arcade and zantetsukenz in Carom as they aren't there favourite game types at all.
Adam swapped HIS players not yours so i don't see your argument here.
Not everyone are placed in their strongest modes all the time though.
Edit: Read Total Dom thread and seems Tyler is bored of playing the same opponent so presented the idea of the swap, It was his Captain who chose to Swap.
If Tyler wanted Swap to play an easier opponent (like on Pool) i wouldn't have been happy about it.
Fact remains though he didn't swap your players, just swapped his.
Edited at 00:43 Tue 18/06/13 (BST)
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06:47 Tue 18 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
To be honest guys, i just didn't want to play the same player twice in one season as adam stated. Not the fact that i wanted an easier opponent as i think pattie is a great regular player (hope you see this pat), if it is that much of a deal get adam to swap it back.
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21:09 Tue 18 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
Although I see nothing wrong with the above, it did get me thinking...
Not much wrong with the current way things are done, but I wanted to suggest an alternative.
Nothing drastic, just a suggestion, don't bite my head off
At the moment we have 2 fixtures against each clan - Could make one fixture a 'home' fixture and one an 'away'.
Then get the away team to send in their team sheet before the home team, send the away team sheet to the home captain so that he/she gets to pick who each player plays, in affect giving the team a home advantage.
Think it would make the league more interesting
Not much wrong with the current way things are done, but I wanted to suggest an alternative.
Nothing drastic, just a suggestion, don't bite my head off
At the moment we have 2 fixtures against each clan - Could make one fixture a 'home' fixture and one an 'away'.
Then get the away team to send in their team sheet before the home team, send the away team sheet to the home captain so that he/she gets to pick who each player plays, in affect giving the team a home advantage.
Think it would make the league more interesting
21:48 Tue 18 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
Certainly something we can look at for next season!
22:04 Tue 18 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
wouldn't work as pirate is always late sending lists in
22:39 Tue 18 Jun 13 (BST) [Link]
4 months ago:
Don't like it when it's my idea Seb . (page 25 if you want to find it).
If you do 2 fixtures between each team could you work in a 'home' and 'away' leg? Then do it like we used to in the UK v ROW carom thing and away captain sends teamlist to home captain who matches his players to it. The away captain could still shuffle a bit but that would be minimised with the rule stopping players subbing into the same game type. Could also maybe have 3 bonus points if the away team wins?
Away captain would say have to send team by Saturday midday, and home captain send the fixtures to seb by Sunday midnight.
Oh and to stop captains sending in ridiculous teamsheets, then making subs in every fixture to get what they want, could say a minimum of 5 original fixtures must be played? If not then teams could be fined points or something. Obviously this loophole is available now and no captains exploit it, so I would like to think none would .
Away captain would say have to send team by Saturday midday, and home captain send the fixtures to seb by Sunday midnight.
Oh and to stop captains sending in ridiculous teamsheets, then making subs in every fixture to get what they want, could say a minimum of 5 original fixtures must be played? If not then teams could be fined points or something. Obviously this loophole is available now and no captains exploit it, so I would like to think none would .
^That's a lot of legislating and oversight though. It seems more appropriate for an event in the events forum to be honest.
The matching up lineups falls to the subs as you mentioned. Any sub would be questioned almost every time.
The matching up lineups falls to the subs as you mentioned. Any sub would be questioned almost every time.
Don't like it when it's my idea Seb . (page 25 if you want to find it).
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