Reducing to 12 would be great for reliability purposes, but at the same time there's the fact that if couple of those players go offline, your in the same boat as b4..i would say reduce the clan size to 12, taking a better chance than with 16

I think you should Put it to an anonymous vote with the captains/vices/default guys + any other respectable clanners (or an open vote to all members). Restrict the options to 'reduce to 10', 'reduce to 12', 'reduce to 14' or 'keep the same' - don't worry about the format for now, just see what everyone thinks about numbers

Im going to start by "reduce to 12"

I second that^^ "reduce to 12"

Before we reduce clan sizes, I think we need to ask if people leaving the current clans will actually form new clans. If they dont, then I dont see what reducing clan numbers will achieve

I know a number of people that are capable of running clans.

question is, would they give it a chance?

im glad ross has, more we have in league the better in my opinion. If clan sizes reduced produces more clans im all for it but i don't mind either way

i would probably continue anger management if they were made smaller.. just bored of the same old thing over and over really..

I'm not sure whether we have the players to form a new clan

Anger Management can keep going, Tyler's new team plus Ross's team, and then Snooker Legends - gives us two more teams for next season

Anyway, my vote would be for a reduction to 12

I am also for 12 players!

yer 10-12 is fine.. depends on what the format would be aswell i suppose..

I would be for 10 player clans.

Just want to throw in that I don't see it being changed now and then again down to 10 next season. Is 12 a radical enough change to have the effect that we want?
Some clans only have 13 players at the moment anyway.

For the issue of a sudden deactivation of several players leading to a clan folding- we do have the "loan" rule that allows clans to help other clans temporarily for this purpose.

Well we would be reducing the clan sizes by a quarter, which is more than enough IMO. 12 would still leave me with a big enough safety net for when people go inactive. I think Allstarz are the only clan with less than 15, which is because I've been keeping spaces open for players to join at the end of the season (my own fault).

Regardless of the format, the reduction would be too get more clans going - I think 12 is the healthiest number without potentially destroying the current clans

It seems like at the moment, reducing clans to 12 players is the most widely supported solution.

Next season, the maximum amount of players in clans will be 12. There are now about 4-5 weeks until the new season starts with preseason friendlies. Clans should use that time to sort their players numbers out and new clans should be forming soon to be ready and stable in time!

I'm still talking with a few people about possible formats, but we'll have something sorted on that front soon. It won't be too radically different than what we've had so far, but will still be a change to reflect smaller clan sizes.

Killer will remain in some form, but probably not the way it is now.

Alright! 12 it is!

Bit in bold is completely wrong

ang_k (Captain)
cutting_edge (Vice)
__jack__(will only play if i beg him to)
4_inch_nails(deacted months ago but no point taking out when no replacement is coming in)
abhi1991
ace79
eraser147
etarvt
garethclin
lauren_ali(left due to internet issues)
odee
pattie96
scotty2hotti
yorkshirelad(was a late signing)
zantetsukenz

So Black Ballers have had 11-13 people active all season long.

I was only going by the numbers registered on the website. I do apologise if that upset you that much!

It's the same for many clans I think. Most do not remove inactive players unless they have a replacement lined up.
constipator
destiny
foxy_147
onevisit
ededed

all pretty much inactive. That's why 12 limit is not quite the radical change I was looking for.

I was still only going by the website, if we are going to be pedantic Allstarz have had 7 active players all season

That's the point I was trying to get across before though, how things are now you have that 4/5 man safety net where you can have those inactive players, but now they are all getting shelved - We'll see how it works I guess

Anyone think of new formats? Ideally we would want as close to the Original as possible but post your ideas

I think Cup can stay the same (or lower to 5 vs 5)