not really if you mean choose players in Arcade, I agree you would pick your top players but if you can only use them once per half it gets you thinking about other players as well.

The captains don't have a reason to do it now tho as its all secret at the moment tho do they?

If the opponent could see the team sheet it opens up the option of sending in the wrong team sheet then making multiple subs so the Home side doesn't have the advantage no more.

But I really don't understand how that is different to now? You could just subs/swap players once the fixture get's released - How would it be any different?? If nobody exploits the system now...

And I mean 'arcadey' in the sense that that idea sounds too 'gimmicky' for my liking (if that makes more sense)

You're just scared of making yourself star player and losing 6-0 .

true but its the same now really, you could send in 9 crap players then make 9 subs (well you can't but you get the picture) but no one does unless its logical reasons.

an idea could be that no subs can be made for first few days of the fixture for any team then some games could be played. If not then it might go against them at default.

second idea is the team who sees the teamsheet could cancel a sub if they feel the opposition is abusing the system (must have a logical explanation for runner to cancel it).

third idea is to dock points for Teams that try to loophole around the rule as thats no fun in the league.

There are 12 players and im sure each team wont play many more than 12 fixtures(depending on teams) in the season.

So you could give every player the chance to have the star player and get you double points in a fixture throughout the season?

As a general comment, without having read to deep into any of the ideas-
whatever system we use has to still be kept fairly simple so that people know what's going on!

We saw it in chris's league on pool- it was a nice format but very complicated and required lots of maintenance by the runner. People lost interest and quit.

The home and away idea also means that clans would have to play each other twice in the season- depending on numbers, that may or may not be possible.

possibly if there are 7 clans (12 games).

If you play 5 games per half then you have to use 5 different players (e.g. Whocares8x8, Obieeeee, Rank_stinger, Lethal_lure, Dgeneratio). Then during second half you can use them again or use new players (e.g. Crazy_greg, Destiny, The_Tornado, Skillz, Constipator)

There are enough players in a clan to give everyone the chance to be the star player in a clan, unless you are like me and Ang as we are both subs as we are active enough to sub into a game, so then Black Ballers would move back to a player that has already been the star player.

The league format idea I originally proposed to a bunch of people by message looks like this (I've since added 1 more fixture, since clans are 12, not 10 players):

-1 player plays 6 frames of arc
-1 player plays 3 frames of arc and 3 frames of reg
-1 player plays 3 frames of reg and 3 frames of orig
-1 player plays 6 frames of orig
-1 player plays 6 frames of carom
-1 player plays 3 frames of carom and 3 frames of reg
-1 player plays 3 frames of power

That would mean a point total of
9 arc
9 reg
9 orig
9 carom
6 power

Killer:
3 games of 2 vs 2 killer should be played in each fixture. The winner of each game gets 2 points (so 6 points total). The same players can play in every killer game (so that the 3 games could be played right after each other if teams choose to do so).

Cup: I liked the group format of this season, which can be expanded depending on how many teams join. We could play 6 vs 6 players (ties don't matter in the group stages; we would figure out a tiebreak format in knockouts stages).

Oh yer you mailed me this..haha

i didnt reply i forgot. but im really not fussed what format it is..lol

I don't mind the above

What format should Players Championship be? be aware that every league player is entered at the moment

That will be hard to set up if you have got to have 3 sets of different players playing.

You can have one fixture of killer against each team worth double the points to make up the loss of not playing each team twice at killer.

you could do it with same players in all 3 games but based on Pool 3 games of 2 vs 2 is a lot easier to arrange than 1 or 2 3 vs 3. We did them in one day i think vs Uprising with different players

Not really a "team" killer then tho if you are using same 2 people for the 3 diff killer games.

Like i said have killer once a season against each side, so then ur playing 6 games of killer over the season(if there is 7 teams in the league), with each killer been worth 12-0, 10-2 and 8-4.

That can be done, although I want to avoid people playing all their killer games within a week and then nothing the rest of the season....

If anyone cares for my rather pointless opinion (Doubtful but here goes).

Keep it simple, There really isn't any need for any fancy things like double the score of a match or having Home and Away fixtures that could potentially end up causing problems when subs are needed.

General feeling is to reduce the clan size so I'd guess matches would need to be reduced slightly which probably means scrapping a game. In reality the only choice is to get rid of 1 carom game. The interest (or lack off it) on the site doesn't really warrant the same amount of games compared to the standard Snooker types.

Another point I'd add is that it gets, (or for me got) a bit boring playing the same players over and over each fixture. This is predictable given the 1 type games we have.

Final point before I go is how is killer doing in the League? If it causes too many problems then could be moved to a stand-alone competition

That is up to the clans if they want to play all there killers in the first fixtures, as long as every team as had the chance to play killer against each team then its a level playing field.

In general i second this! To avoid having too many defaults what about allowing one player playing twice in a fixture unless its not the same game type (but as a sub only)

First paragraph
I agree with not having Carom at 9 games like arc, reg n original as it aint the most popular game on the site.

Second Paragraph
If you are only good at one game type(not saying you are) it's more than likely you will end up playing some players twice in a season(maybe more due to cup). Not many teams have a lot of players that are good at different game types so they will play someone in there best type over and over.

Take Black Ballers for example, we play etarvt in mainly Carom as that is where he is most effective, even tho he is a really good all round player, Same with Scott he plays more arcade than any other type unless someone is away, so then he moves to power or carom(depending whose away).