Not bad, because to be honest you can't really set your self up for shots, and if ya can, you need skill to get past a run of 1 then.

Cant see how we could make it into an interesting one person game. Only things that could be done would be

1) Best run
2) Number of successes in 20 shots.
3) Most cushion hit before a success

I personally would get bored very quickly.

Well think about it. I know lots of people who actually like Carom, but can never get a game, so they don't play

Edited at 11:30 Wed 29/10/08 (GMT)

ray tbh mate i don't think it would be too much different to playign against sum1 good idea lyle

Hence my idea about putting available rooms above the buttons.

You could do both ideas either

Just 1 player carom wouldnt particularly interest me.

Edited at 11:36 Wed 29/10/08 (GMT)

Spinn find my 3 cases on this thread where somebody has given completely negative feedback on the state of the site, becasue as far as i'm concerned the thread has been full of constructive ctiticism, not just straight out moaning. If you think that we are totally ripping the site apart then you are looking at the thread with a very closed mind, and going into defense mode when there is no need to.

At the end of the day Nick has made the site what is is, so it is solely up to him what he wantsto implement and what he doesn't, having said that we have a game queries forum for a reason, so I hope Nick takes some time out to read this, and reads it with an open mind, because this does NOT need to be a negative thread, it can be a helpful thread in helping the site move forward as it undoubtedly needs to do.

ermmm my opinion is take the last big update off and put it back to normal as i cant play anymore lmao

Instead of 15 red arcade, what do people reckon to this on a table sized about halfway between arcade and original - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snooker_plus ?

isnt purple worth 12 points, played it on WSC 2005 for PS2 really good idea

been mentioned before on here i think the person who brought it up took teh idea as made up i didn't know that was actully a game as wiki says it wont catch on sorry

I just read the whole thread, and I'd like to add my personal contribution to the debate, by answering some of the popular ideas I could read here.

First of all, I don't see why any game should be removed. In the worst case, nobody plays it, then what? It doesn't disturb anyone, doesn't cost anything to anyone, and still stays there for the people that still would like to play it sometimes, let's say by inviting a friend to play.

Secondly, I have nothing against the 15 balls arcade, if and only if it doesn't put original even more in the shade than now. But I find it quite hard to predict what kind of impact 15 balls arcade would have on original... maybe making the table perceptibly smaller than original's?

As for the game's appeal, I also used to have very interested periods, and the next week not logging in at all. The fault is not funkysnooker's, but the man nature's. Of course some new game could help a lot in making me come back to play, but not at long-term; just look at the difference between killer's popularity now and just after its launch... I have myself been always playing killer for a week or so when it was launched, as many did, after that everything went back as usual.

I probably forgot a few things, but well, I can't remember 9 pages of discussion just like that.

I think that last bit there epitomizes the whole thread, 9 pages of constructive posts on a pretty hot topic. When was the last time a thread like this got past 5 pages ?

Surely this shows we show enough passion about the game to want its appeal back.

Wether or not 15 Red Arcade works no one knows, but wheres the harm in trying it?

I'd actually like to apologise for biting goi_gio's head off i was a bit harsh it was early in the mornin and as u'll probably guess im not a mornin guy bu hey things happen n im sorry !!

I cant see how you can think it was a moan? If anything its a compliment! There isnt any other person just going to come out of knowhere to overtake you lol. You have done the hard work now and deserve to be well ahead at the top. What i was trying to say is that I think a new snooker game would really freshen things up and excite the 'bored' users. Everyone would be on a level playing field and I can see that being very competitive, and that surely can only be a good thing.

I was sure I had forgotten something. This is about the fact that people need targets to aim for (rank, statistics) in order to fully enjoy the game.

I completely disagree with that. The first reason we play is not because we want to make our high break count increase, or to step a few places in the best ever rankings; the first reason we play is because it's fun. If, when someone has achieved everything, making such challenge disappear, his willing to play also disappears, it means that that player never really liked the game in itself, never enjoyed the sole fact of playing; and once he has "completed" the game (or feels so), he needs another challenge, another game to achieve great stats on.
Of course sometimes I saw myself playing for stats, but beyond any "stats challenge", I like the game itself, I just like to play. That's why for me, the game's attractiveness won't be affected if these challenges ever disappeared.

I'm not pointing at anyone, this is just a reaction to those that seemed to link the stats challenges to the game's appeal.

Haha, Im sure I am one of those that post is aimed at blutch


Most people will probably play for fun. But if people didn't play at all for stats there would be no need to have an achievements thread etc.? It is sad to say but if it wernt for having stats I would have left this game a long time ago. Thats the whole addiction about this site for me. It is a big part of the site in my opinion.

Maybe I didn't explain clearly enough my point. The stats are indeed a great and very important part of the site, and I enjoy myself having nice "permanent" stats as well as I always care about my current ranking.

But I was talking about people playing only because they have a milestone, usually some magic number, like 1000 wins, that they want to achieve. People for who the whole fun is to reach such milestones. People who get bored once they can't find a new milestone to aim for.

Oh, and I really wasn't aiming at anyone in particular. It's just that the argument has been used in this thread, as one reason explaining why people get bored.

Agreed. And you should know me well enough by now to know that a little reverse psychology does no harm in livening things up



Told you so!





I can't help but point out the difference between this thread and the one Mike started to try and campaign to get 15 red arcade implimented. It's a good example of why it hasn't been in the past.

Its popular with some members when threads like these pop up, but despite all those apparently in favour of it, not one single person (apart from Mike, obviously!) has posted on the thread in almost 19 hours.

That didnt happen with the Killer or Billiards threads, and it was only briefly mentioned in one post on the "What new updates would you like?" thread earlier in the month.

I know regular users know that an intermediate table is under consideration and has been for a while, so don't miss your chance to influence it!

A few have posted on that thread now, the pic Mike has made is the one that is going to be best i reckon.

Edit: Spinn I will never know you properly, you are far too complex for that.

(either that or just awkward)

Edited at 00:31 Thu 30/10/08 (GMT)

Thats what we are thinking of atm, can't say it doesn't look good.