add me to that list aswell..

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Same was said for arcade when it was implimented. And US pool on the pool site...

You have to take a wide view looking at trends over a few years rather than a snapshot of opinion at any one time.

As i said above, many people on this thread are just assuming everyone knows their own idea of what a 15 red arcade game would be.

This is why detailed arguments of the pro's and cons and how things would actually look and work are required, rather than the "I wantee my gameee" attitude that tends to prevail somewhat.

In fact, that is the catalyst of the problem with
"15 red arcade" - it has been asked for many times for sure, but hasn't necessarily meant the same thing each time.

A better way forward would be to discuss and agree which format a new 15 ball game should take, then make a case for it once it has a solid foundation.

Oh, and the poll thing - well those 20000 do count because they did vote by simply coming on and playing..

I currently have no problem with the site, but then again i'm still relatively new.

The other thing is i've near enough given up with carom due to the lack of people to play. However i don't want to see it deleted because i'll lose my stats for it? (very proud of my run of 7)

Edited at 22:51 Tue 28/10/08 (GMT)

here is my point, if I get a run of 100 tommorow on carom and then carom is deleted from FS next week, i won't be happy, so then do we keep carom just to keep those with good stats happy. It's survival of the fittest, if arcade snooker is more popular than orig then it is better if 15 red arcadinal as I will now refer to it, turns out to be more popular than riginal then so be it, it therefore is a better game.

I actually prefer the idea of scotch doubles (and if doubles is to be intrduced i hope it is scotch doubles as this will be so much more fun) as an idea, just unsure on how it will be added, maybe a double whammy, scotch doubles, 15 red arcadinal

hmm, is scotch doubles alternating shots? (i'd play the red, then my partner would play the colour, then i'd play the next red etc:)

yup, exactly.

would love to see that introduced, but how would you enter a tourny with your m8 as your partner, either that or it could randomize the doubles pairings - this would really spice things up.

aye sure would, good idea

great point, 100% agree, made a thread where that can be discussed here.. http://www.funkysnooker.com/viewTopic.do?topicid=4653

Edited at 00:07 Wed 29/10/08 (GMT)

i am an old timer on her bin a member since day 1 almost and i losing interest aswell

This took me about an hour to read ha!

At half way through of reading this i thought you (spinner) was being unfair and a bit on the "snotty" side, witch is very unfair cause if you look at the members who have posted, if it wasn't for most of them this site wouldn't be were it is today! Them members deserve their opinions to be looked at respectively especially from you, i can assure you that most people look up to you on this site! (fact).
You seemed to take notice on people's views come the end of it, and rightly so.

Sorry its just that i agree 100% with the lads who have posted above, were getting so left behind from pool its hitting most members with frustration, we all know pool is Nicks main priority but could the lads have something what they desperately want for a change? To be honest it doesn't bother me at all what happens as i don't play often anyway, removing the scroll on original was a kick in the balls, the scroll attracted new players such as myself, i understand why it got removed so lets not go there!

Nick should read this and give his opinion on it, as for then lads it's pointless posting, it really is!

And Jay_afc i remember coming across a post of yours saying ste_efc will remain at the top of the century table if he continues playing, witch was a bit of a moan, just think of it i created this account 10 months ago, and started from scratch and sean_paul had 200 centurys, so to overtake him was an achievement and a half!! So its possible!

1) The 15 red arcadial table would have to be a middle ground on pocket size, table size and ball size.

2) Surely this will re-kindle interest in the game, as has been said before, targets have been achieved, and making this game will start everyone from scratch, and on even terms from the start, which will makeit challenging to stay at the top, while the game is in-keeping with the snooker theme of the website.

3) Im in middle ground on straight snooker, love the idea of potting a red, then colour, then re-racking them up, but then again what table wold that go on for a start, mabye a middle sized table to make it a bit challenging, but does the game keep with the snooker theme? Not really sure on that, but would bring a whole new challenge to break buliding which would be excellent.

4) Absolutely no point in scrapping arcade or original, just keep them there, as im sure after a little bit of one of the 2 new games above mentioed would be introduced, people would start playing the games again, while playing the new game and not letting that die down.

5) Carom and killer, i think carom would be the one to get rid of, not really sure about killer as that still is played on by quite a few, like i saw yesterday 3 games being played. May not sound like a lot but you do have to remember that there can easily be 5 or more players playing in 1 room.

6) Scotch doubles would bring a whole new perspective onto the game, but after a while, would that go down the pan as you could get annoyed by your partner and if it was random partners, im sure you would get people coming on to play that just to ruin your game and miss every shot. No idea why they would but people just would

7) Stats - Well, the thing is about the stats, everyone has different goals with their stats, and i know a load of the top players (which have already posted saying this but ill say it again) have achieved just about everything. Yes i could go for a new high rank on orig (for example), but the fact of the matter is im not bothered about achieving that, the stats i wanted to acieve, i have. Simple as that.

8) Yes, people are getting bored of the game, but why leave when something like one of the 2 possible games could stop that boredom and keep more people on the site for years to come, and infact could easily bring a lot more users to the game with the right advertising.

Disagree with what ive said, but i am entitled to my opinion. Everyone can have a chance to speak here.

Firstly, my initial reaction was because of the negative image of the site created by the tone of the initial posts. Just like leaving threads, we have all seen it hundreds of times and just long for some originality, same for the "15 reds" idea that up until now has seen more variations suggested than any game on either site.

Also the tome that some members are more important than others, when nothing could be further from the truth. Everyone from admin to the newest of newbies is just one of the 21k + members here, all on the same level.

What propted me to make this post, however, is the second part of the quote above - I've never been able to see any difference between the sites. Both develop together, sometimes things appear of pool first, some on snooker. Its all a matter of making clear and logical suggestions and being patient while they are developed.

I do have to agree with spinner, the sites do get fair treatment, if there is any difference, its minimal.

I got to agree with Gio_Goi on a certain level becuase we do need something like 15 red arcade to make this site better and something new becuase I usually come on and there is never a game of killer or Carom going and I have sat in a room for about 30 minutes waiting for people join just they never do, 15 red arcade would be a great idea alot more fun get more of them higher breaks something new for people to work at

Alot of people who I have being talking to feel the game has gone downhill not up but Nick can only do what we ask for, how can people believe it has got worse when he has only added new things to keep the site upto date and put new ideas on so we do have a certain variety (When other people want to play the games) 15 red arcade would be a great hit and I think we would always have somebody willing to play it aswell.

I would scrap Carom because no games are up anymore and no one plays the game

I would not scrap either arcade and original because i always have things to do on them.

I understand about all the top players (e.g. sean_paul, ste_efc, damee, kaison etc) gets bored because there is nothing to do for them.

I like the idea of 15 red arcade and stotch doubles.

Im not sure on the 21 red original idea because i think the highest break should stay as 147. If the 21 original comes in it will be a challenge for people like sean_paul, damee and ste_efc who already has a 147.

May be running off the track here a bit but an idea has sprung to mind on how to get killer and carom going a bit. I know myself I normally go into the members bar and click on quick game and just presume that nobody is playing carom

Maybe above the quick link button a list of available rooms in each discipline. Once people see that rooms are available in Carom then they are more likely to join.

Like this



Edited at 08:58 Wed 29/10/08 (GMT)

Nice idea Ray and well thought out. I'm sure that would attract more members, you get players that can't even be bothered to search if a game is available or not due to it being so low in numbers (carom/original/killer), so by your example i think its a perfect way to help get players to play more carom/original/killer. Once again nice one Ray .

To be honest, the best way, I think, to get more people playing carom. Is to make it a possible 1 player game? Like mini golf for example, you can play it on your own. How about it?