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07:07 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
tom they are resetting everybodys rankto 675 becuase if your current rank is 970 then that puts your max rank on 970 so they say it still makes it unfair, they are re-starting the game so everybody is equal
But does anybody no if theyare starting us from newbies again? becuase people like sam have played over 10,000 games?
But does anybody no if theyare starting us from newbies again? becuase people like sam have played over 10,000 games?
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07:17 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
Behave, you're acting as, if it doesn't change back you're life is over...
No matter what you won't win, Nick has made a decision already and believe me he won't change his mind.
Edited at 13:23 Mon 29/12/08 (GMT)
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And ste i just got to say your last post is outragous! the new point systems fine, but removing your highest rank's not? how can you say that? Is it because no one will ever reach it with the new ranking system? I think so.
Sorry to say mate but your acting a little childish on the "max rank" matter. Especially when a "hall of fame" table could be put in.
I'd be more worried about the direction funkysnooker is going rather then an achievement many people have got and lost in the past. Is it fair that your top of max rank table and lyle is'nt? Ask yourself that and get back to me.
Sorry to say mate but your acting a little childish on the "max rank" matter. Especially when a "hall of fame" table could be put in.
I'd be more worried about the direction funkysnooker is going rather then an achievement many people have got and lost in the past. Is it fair that your top of max rank table and lyle is'nt? Ask yourself that and get back to me.
Behave, you're acting as, if it doesn't change back you're life is over...
No matter what you won't win, Nick has made a decision already and believe me he won't change his mind.
Edited at 13:23 Mon 29/12/08 (GMT)
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07:28 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
An achievement many people have got? I believe it's only me and Lyle who have 996 plus, Lyle got 996.9. So in 3 years just two people get that rank, and you expect me to just roll over and let the change happen?
Ask you're self and get back to me!
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I'd be more worried about the direction funkysnooker is going rather then an achievement many people have got and lost in the past. Is it fair that your top of max rank table and lyle is'nt? Ask yourself that and get back to me.
An achievement many people have got? I believe it's only me and Lyle who have 996 plus, Lyle got 996.9. So in 3 years just two people get that rank, and you expect me to just roll over and let the change happen?
Ask you're self and get back to me!
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07:39 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
No its just max rank being re-set, thats why nicks waiting until the ranks hav settled down again. not going to re-set our wins and all that and high breaks
08:17 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
OK, I can see why reducing the ranking is causing concern - as is the goal, your ranking score is generally decreasing. The only other way would be to start everyone back on 675.
A hall of fame is a great idea.
A hall of fame is a great idea.
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08:18 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
Ok fair enough. Will they be re-set today then? If everybody will be 675 theres no need to wait is there?
08:20 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
Personally if any reset is to happen then I think it would have to be everyones rank back to 675, also along the lines of max rank would my 994 be in the hall of fame even tho I reset? Cause isn't me resetting the same as everyone resetting? (I know what I mean)
Edited at 14:22 Mon 29/12/08 (GMT)
Edited at 14:22 Mon 29/12/08 (GMT)
08:26 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
No plans to do it, I'll wait for this discussion to go on and go with the majority of sensible opinions. However I will not revert the rankings to how they were previously, the ranking system was incorrectly calibrated.
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08:28 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
yeh but changing to 675 is silly because we all took a long time to get out ranks, and we are proud of them, so let them go down a little bit and we we will just get it back up.
Re-setting them is silly beacuse it will take us ages to get it back up.
Re-setting them is silly beacuse it will take us ages to get it back up.
08:31 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
I got to agree with pieceofpig if your going do it why wait, weather its today or tomorrow everybody still going have to get used to it
Nick can't you just drop everybodys overall rank to their current rank seems so nobody is that high atleast then we can salvage something from all of this?
But also it is unfair for ste to loose his, he did do amazingly well to get that high and i think everybody in the top 10 shouldnt be forced to give up their rank due to how hard they have tried to get there
Edited at 14:34 Mon 29/12/08 (GMT)
Nick can't you just drop everybodys overall rank to their current rank seems so nobody is that high atleast then we can salvage something from all of this?
But also it is unfair for ste to loose his, he did do amazingly well to get that high and i think everybody in the top 10 shouldnt be forced to give up their rank due to how hard they have tried to get there
Edited at 14:34 Mon 29/12/08 (GMT)
08:34 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
See thats where your wrong, it's silly if things were left as they are, as it stands there are people at the top pretty much uncatchable who haven't played a rank game since the change and could just well stay there and never been knocked off number 1.
So because of that something needs to change, after all there only numbers this is just a new goal to go for.
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yeh but changing to 675 is silly because we all took a long time to get out ranks, and we are proud of them, so let them go down a little bit and we we will just get it back up.
Re-setting them is silly beacuse it will take us ages to get it back up.
Re-setting them is silly beacuse it will take us ages to get it back up.
See thats where your wrong, it's silly if things were left as they are, as it stands there are people at the top pretty much uncatchable who haven't played a rank game since the change and could just well stay there and never been knocked off number 1.
So because of that something needs to change, after all there only numbers this is just a new goal to go for.
Charles Darwin said:
It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.
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08:36 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
Yes if you reset it then Spinner will go all monkey kungfoo on you and start to kill the game ( Literally)
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08:43 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
^^ it will
and mike oh well if someone is uncatchable at the top, i understand a lot of people want to be at the top, but they are going to have to accept it they cant.
PLus even if you do change it the likes of ste_efc, kai, lyle and boz_lad are just going to get back up there at the top AGAIN
and mike oh well if someone is uncatchable at the top, i understand a lot of people want to be at the top, but they are going to have to accept it they cant.
PLus even if you do change it the likes of ste_efc, kai, lyle and boz_lad are just going to get back up there at the top AGAIN
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08:45 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
Starting on 675 again is a challenge IMO, would be good to see who could get up quickest. Be a nice challenge.
08:52 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
So what difference does it make if there is a reset then!? You just proved my point!
And another thing accepting they can't? that would be a fair point if it was achievable to get to there rank and they personally couldn't but it's not that it's the fact they actually can't with it being not possible!
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^^ it will
and mike oh well if someone is uncatchable at the top, i understand a lot of people want to be at the top, but they are going to have to accept it they cant.
PLus even if you do change it the likes of ste_efc, kai, lyle and boz_lad are just going to get back up there at the top AGAIN
and mike oh well if someone is uncatchable at the top, i understand a lot of people want to be at the top, but they are going to have to accept it they cant.
PLus even if you do change it the likes of ste_efc, kai, lyle and boz_lad are just going to get back up there at the top AGAIN
So what difference does it make if there is a reset then!? You just proved my point!
And another thing accepting they can't? that would be a fair point if it was achievable to get to there rank and they personally couldn't but it's not that it's the fact they actually can't with it being not possible!
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09:04 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
the difference is that if we get our stats reset ste_efc ,kai,lyle and boz_lad are just going go get back up and then it will takes us ages to get our stats back up!! that is my point!!!!!!!!
09:12 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
Personally the only thing i like about it is i would have a chance of being the first pro or first virt just like anybody else does so I guess on that line its all right for everybody else, but I still have to look on the point of ste_efc but i guess aslong as he is shown some apreaciation and a hall of fame or something along those lines then I guess its not to bad of a thing
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09:24 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
I think this is what should happen, in light of the fact that re-setting is necessary due to the change in rank calculation:
1) A proper hall of fame be created with top ranks entered. make this a comprehensive section so that no top players feel hard done by
An alternative to this is an optional section on each players profile called "all time stats", where all of their stats since the beginning are recorded, and they cannot be re-set. This would show old max rank and everything.
2) Either change everybodys rank back to 675, OR if it is possible, move everybodys rank to half, or another number such as 0.75 of their previous difference from 675. say your current rank is 725, you would move to 700, so not all of the effort is wasted. Iam not sure if this is possible however, but if it is, it looks like an excellent compromise.
3) do not re-set any statistics of games played, high breaks or tournament wins
What do you think? I dont think theres need for any more whinging about losing a high rank, some players will just have to put up with it, but it is making it hard to pick out the actual ideas of how to find a compromise!
1) A proper hall of fame be created with top ranks entered. make this a comprehensive section so that no top players feel hard done by
An alternative to this is an optional section on each players profile called "all time stats", where all of their stats since the beginning are recorded, and they cannot be re-set. This would show old max rank and everything.
2) Either change everybodys rank back to 675, OR if it is possible, move everybodys rank to half, or another number such as 0.75 of their previous difference from 675. say your current rank is 725, you would move to 700, so not all of the effort is wasted. Iam not sure if this is possible however, but if it is, it looks like an excellent compromise.
3) do not re-set any statistics of games played, high breaks or tournament wins
What do you think? I dont think theres need for any more whinging about losing a high rank, some players will just have to put up with it, but it is making it hard to pick out the actual ideas of how to find a compromise!
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09:33 Mon 29 Dec 08 (GMT) [Link]
#3 is not going to happen no matter what, #1 has been mentioned and people agree, and #2, reset to 675, the best way.
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