Don't ya think that first of all we should take a vote on whether most players actually want a new, more structured format?

Its alright a few people saying they want this, but what if most people don't?

Of course mate i think that would be the best place to start.

Is it worth you changing the name of this thread pal.

Clans the rules discussion something like that.

You'll have to speak to an admin to get it changed, I'm not forum mod. Good luck with getting enough support. I suggest getting all clan leaders to message their players alerting them to this thread and asking if they support the idea of a structured format.

i think this could be very positive.

despite the fact it may decrease the overall amount of players entering clans, it should increase the numbers of serious clan players since everybody will know what they are getting themselves involved in

ive always said 13 should be the maximum in a clan, 10 playing with 3 reserves. but im running a clan league which is going really well where captains pick 10 players to play in the league and 6 players will play each fixture. got an ok default system. based my clan league on here from the pool clan league.

i also think instead of just arcade in clan games, all games should be a set amount, say 2 in each game type for example with each frame worth 1 point.

some great ideas on here and i fully support the ideas brought forward.

My Ideas:

6 v 6 games - will make clan games finish faster
deadline on all games otherwise it goes to default
13 in a clan
have a default system similar to pool
have set game type and frame for ALL games
1 point per frame in ALL clan games
subs allowed in clan games but MUST give the clan leader/captain some notice

it sounds good to me..would save a lot of hassle of people joining clans then leaving.. so some kind of struction or some rules would make it a lot better in the long run

The main problem is not how it is run. It's the people that are in clans. Once people join a clan, they ain't that committed to play their games or to the clan it's self.

Also, you are going to need a lot of committed people to put a lot of time and effort all the time to make it work, which there simply ain't at the moment.

Also, pool as gone too far and made it very complicated at the moment.

yep thats kinda what i was saying though, if there is a better structure in place, the time wasters wont join clans.



if we do it right over here we can get a happy medium

What's this then?

i think hes referring to clan league games there m8

nothing to worry about, basically the default win system in matches for players who never played etc

I fully support this idea and i think it is about time some kind of rules where put in place . Great idea Lee

Great to see this getting support from some mods!

Nice one Lee!! Looks like you may have got the ball rolling!!!

No offence Lee, Im having my say (like you said it was alright on the F.S.E is back thread)

Dont forget you were the one that had like 30+ players in your clan. And also made other clans (yes, including mine) fall apart through everyone going to the hustlers.

Now you want the rules to get stricter? So what was all the arguing with me before about ruff ryders falling apart? Feel slightly guilty? Or you just coming to terms with the fact that i was probably right?

Dont forget, im just having my say.

Ive never been against rules being put in place.

However

I stood up for my clan having lots of players because there is no rule in place.

This isnt about me , its about the clans working properly, your either for or against the idea ryan not for or against me.

My view, it is up to the captains of the two respective clans to agree on the games that are played.


Other views:

1, Maximum of 12-13 per clan.

2, A Clan League must cover all 4 individual games (including carom) I did have an idea for a clan league to include this. (7 players playing a week, 2 players playing Arcade, Regular and Original, with the final one playing Carom. Players can play all game types. (eg, i play carom one set of fixtures and am allowed to play Original) All games would be best of 5.

Want to know more about that idea or anything your unsure about just ask.

3, No two clans must be related in any way. In effect this basically means no 2nd teams.

4, The FSCA (Funkysnooker Clan Asociation) is formed, lead by a neutral party. (iamtheworst, or any other Mod unconnected to a clan) Also made up of the leader from each clan.

(okay, so number 4 was a bit off the scale and jokey but i still think a group of people will be needed to oversee clsn decisions and make sure things run smoothly. (The FSCA)

I'm just saying. Why you so bothered about it now, when you wasn't before?

And i aint against you Lee, not at all. I suppose its just because you have changed your tune.

A few people i have spoke to believe you i.e hustlers (and A.O.C) were the reason clans have slipped. Due to the fact of your MASSIVE clan. Dont forget, if you read when the first clans were established, (so to speak) there was a 10 player 3 sub template. We all used that, and it went pretty well. (Apart from the fact of no one getting games finished) As many people have said before on this site, why fix something that isn't broke?

Your right, there was no rule set in place. Probably the reason why clans wont run as well as we want them to. I agree with what your saying, your just the last person i expected this to come from.

Great stuff , at least were all talking the same tune.

Last time my clan was made up of players id met and also my friends / family so i didnt want to have to tell them they were not involved, i stuck with my clan thats all it was.

Since ive been over on pool more often i have seen what goes on there and now i agree that on a whole to make this work , rules should be re-instated, like you said it worked better.

i think there should be a limit on the amount of players clans have. no offense to the thunder hawx intended i used to be in that clan myself but there is an awful lot of players in that clan that might not even be doing anything. I think its best if there was a limit because then there would more than likely be more enterprising clans as the best clans would have more competition, because lets face it there are clans in this game that are far better than some and maybe there could be better more rounded teams to challenge them.

just to say we was defo not the best clan ever but we have made it better i think we active and playing games and we mpre like a team now

Only by getting every body in your clan, playing your best team and not giving any one else a game.

I really like this idea, only problem i have got is, what happens with the left over players?