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dgeneratio
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19:22 Sat 18 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
golden cue award you dont even have to play extra games its just tied in with playing clan league as normal,

ind league is gone next season.

if you dont want a cup i wont add one, its your call.
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19:28 Sat 18 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
if indi league is scrapped then im all 4 it mate
dgeneratio
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19:42 Sat 18 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
yes it will be scrapped.

we only need to talk about...

lowering clan league team from 15 to 12
if you want a cup and possible format (5 v 5 with 1 week deadline)
whocares8x8
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19:58 Sat 18 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
5 v 5 i like it... 7 v 7 wouldnt be much different from the existing league.
regarding clan league team size, i would maybe recommend a pool-like rule of new player quarantine. they can only play the next fixture. including same players with new names. it's very messy at the moment with multiple subs in every fixture. this way, clans will make sure to include only active players- right now there's no need because virtually unlimited subs are possible
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20:16 Sat 18 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
yeah true, there is few rules on pool.

new signings - new signings may be signed to clans but must wait until the next set of fixtures before they can play

this could be a possibility.

rules that are extreme and probably wont be implemented into clan league rules:

2 month rule - players must have an account which is 2 months old before they can compete in the clan league, this stops most of the deactivations what happens.

signing players from current clans - you can sign players from other clans but will be unable to compete in the clan league at all as they left the clan they was registered too.
sarahh
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20:59 Sat 18 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
havent a clue what any of you are talking about to be honest
whocares8x8
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21:15 Sat 18 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
yeah 2 month rule is unnecessary. 1 fixture quarantine covers that.
although i do agree with the rule about signing from other clans, unless the clan disbands (like this season...)
dgeneratio
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01:47 Sun 19 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
like every season cares lol, only bad thing about clan league, 1 clan always dies

as for signing from other clans and sort of preventing them to play i dont agree with it at the moment as only 5 clans competing at the moment, maybe if we had 8 or more then i could do 2 divisions and put this rule in place until then its not a factor,

1 fixture quarantine is a good idea although ive struggled on pool this fixture because my team wasnt on for weeks and the reliable ones already got subbed out.

2 month rule i agree is a non factor here.

capping members in clan league team from 15 to 12 im 50-50 about.

positive less subs, clans might think more about choices and when to sub out etc but bad thing is less subs is more defaults, what to do...

im still looking at adding a cup but theres not much talk about that but if people dont want it please say so and i wont add a cup.

golden cue award i will keep it as it requires no threads and its played through normal clan matches. If Jan's site is ready for new season i will ask him to do one for win ratio and one for most frames won but if it is not ready by new season then i will create a page on current site for frames won only as i can't do win ratio.
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02:51 Sun 19 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
Seriously James. if you had 8 teams, you'd do 2 divisions?

So 4 teams in a division. That would suck. The Clan League struggles for competition as it is.
dgeneratio
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03:21 Sun 19 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
possibly but i did say i could do 2 divisions but im 50-50 on it again, of course i would ask opinions on it before doing it though and if it wasn't popular i wouldn't do it
not_again
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17:57 Sun 19 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
mooney said:
Seriously James. if you had 8 teams, you'd do 2 divisions?

So 4 teams in a division. That would suck. The Clan League struggles for competition as it is.


Just looking at it from an outsiders point of view, I think there's too many in each clan and you can see that Dollars and Cents and Untouchables hoard the good players. I would suggest smaller teams, you don't need near on 20 players to get 6 or so games done
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18:21 Sun 19 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
Lowering clans from 15 to 12 would be a good idea but has its positives and negatives.
15 people for a 8 v 8 games is to many and there is no real need to have that many people in a clan. 12 would make it easier to rotate people, and for new clans to start up which is what we want the more clans the better and longer.

But as ant said a bit further up it would be hard for some captains to ditch three people. It could also become quite corupt too for example some clans could take three people out every week and bring in a different three people so there would need to be a rule to stop that from happening.

I like the look of the cup be just like clan league but shorter games would it?
not_again
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19:11 Sun 19 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
Easy, don't allow players to play for more than one clan in a season and once they are removed they can't play again
dgeneratio
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19:18 Sun 19 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
possibly max but im hoping for different setup from clan league with the cup but 5 v 5 with 1 week deadline would be good, just need number of frames and the format.

about your idea kev is a good one but i need more voices on that before i can decide if to take it in action or not.

lowering clan members from 15 to 12 seems to be popular so i could put that idea in place.

next season takes place in November so we have plenty of time to talk about this and if to put these in place
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15:43 Fri 24 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
The current system is stupid at the moment.

People can have a clan league game, leave the clan and join another and be subbed into a new fixture immeadiately for their new clan!

No matter what changes are made, that has to be sorted
dgeneratio
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16:02 Fri 24 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
so we want -

players entered in a clan (free agents) has to wait until next set of fixtures before they can play

players must stick to their registered clan, if they leave they cannot play for remainder of the season.

lowering clans from 15 to 12 (?)
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17:19 Fri 24 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:


lowering clan members from 15 to 12 seems to be popular so i could put that idea in place.



wont that just result in captains taking players out for one week and putting others in for the next?
which means u will be changing the teams every week.
whocares8x8
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18:46 Fri 24 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
it doesnt really matter what the size limit of the clans are as long as you cant put new players into fixtures immediately (quarantine rule!). i would probably suggest keeping it at 15 if we include quarantine. gradual change?
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18:52 Fri 24 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
ok so if we put the quarantine rule in and the no changing clans, keep it at 15 yeah?
whocares8x8
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18:55 Fri 24 Sep 10 (BST)  [Link]  
i dont mind either way. i can just see some clan managers having trouble in the first season with this rule if they only have 4 subs and cant bring anyone in. this way, there's at least almost 1 sub per game... but im happy either way (as long as theres quarantine)
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